'A strange unmapped new land'

We agreed with Tom Wright at the end of the Future of the People of God conference, and have confirmed with him since, that we would initiate an online discussion around some of the ideas that he presented at the conference. We think these two paragraphs from the end of the first session (download) are an excellent place to start. In effect Tom makes a case here for an ‘emerging theology’ - though he doesn’t use that phrase himself - that draws together three key themes: i) the interpretation of mission in terms of the new creation; ii) the link between historical Jesus scholarship and the mission of the church; and iii) the analogy between Jesus’ mission to Israel and the church’s mission to the world.

"It is a strange unmapped new land. The disciples don’t know what new creation is going to look like. My brothers and sisters, we are like that now. It is one of the most exciting times I can envisage. I know the history of theology over the last 200 years moderately well and I can tell you, I really believe this is the most exciting time. God is doing new things. We’re in huge crises - that’s what you expect when God is doing new things. The world is bashing us this way, many in the church are bashing us that way - because if you’re going to do the new thing, there’s going to be some barrage, there’s going to be some tough stuff to get through….

"When I was first doing historical Jesus stuff… I was hugely aware at what you might call an existentialist level, in my own soul and heart, in my own preaching, that I was making Jesus strange. I was scared of that. I was scared that I wasn’t going to know how to preach. If these parables meant that very specific stuff in the first century, how could they mean something to me. I realized that we had generalized to such an extent that the specificity and the historical particularity were going to tear away from what I had grown up with. And then one day I reread John 20, where Jesus says, ‘As the Father sent me, even so I send you.’ And I realized that not only is historical Jesus scholarship necessary for the reasons that I gave you at the beginning of this lecture, but it’s necessary for this reason, that the motto for the church is: ‘As Jesus to Israel, so the church to the world’. ‘As the Father sent me, so I send you.’ And it’s a scary commission: whosoever’s sins you forgive, they are forgiven; whosoever’s sins you retain, they are retained. And if you know what that’s going to look like in this next century, do please tell me because I want to know."

(NT Wright, from session one, The Future of the People of God, ‘God’s future for the world has arrived in the person of Jesus’)

So we want to invite you to get this conversation underway. What do you think about these ideas? What are the challenges? How should they be developed?

Either add your comments to this post or start a separate thread in the Conversation with NT Wright forum. Please keep your contributions succinct and to the point, but please also be thoughtful, honest, imaginative, and not too deferential. We want this to be a genuinely productive dialogue, not a one-way question and answer session.

As I’m sure you are all aware, the Bishop of Durham is a busy man so don’t expect too much from him. If all goes well, he will check in every month or so and interact as best he can with what has been posted - so it will be a slow conversation. But there’s nothing to stop us talking amongst ourselves in the meantime!

Missio Dei

In his book ‘Church Planting: Laying Foundations’, Stuart Murray talks about three principles to work with for ‘thinking theologically’ about mission. If I remember rightly (it’s a little while since I read it!) they are…

  1. Missio Dei - the missionary works of God
  2. Incarnation
  3. Kingdom of God
As I understand that, in essence…
  1. the mode of mission is working for the ends that God intends (cf. ‘Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.’ John 10:37);
  2. the means of mission is eschatological and corporeal simultaneously - that which is of the world to come is instantiated in the world that is by the people of God as ‘little Christs’ and especially as disciples of Jesus of Nazareth;
  3. and the mindset of mission is about extending the Kingdom of God (in its Wright-esque sense, with a lovely eschatological twist) to the world with generosity and justice (i.e. putting things right) - the emphasis maybe being more towards offering life before death, being and telling true good news to the poor and the marginalised, than life after death.
There would seem to be a clear correlation between these three ideas and three themes of the Bishop’s discussion that Andrew highlighted in his introduction to this thread.

Wright's studies on the matte

Wright’s studies on the matter always remind me of Isaiah 58. Taking it further than the fast we are called to, it speaks of us being present (real and ready) before God, so that He can be present through us to the world. We are the very arms of God to the world around us. This also follows closely to my Jewish beliefs of our purpose being to heal the world around us and reconcile it to God. Jesus showed and taught the way to be the tranformed congregation of Israel that had been expected for millinia past. It was a very Jewish concept, but as Wright noted, it came about in a way that was unexpected.

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Permission

While listening to the 4 talks at the Future of the People of God Conference, I’ve been a few times struck with the “cadence” of Tom’s voice when he is expressing something he is passionate about. They happen to be things that I am also passionate about. As I have a home studio and am a songwriter / producer I’ve put together a couple mixes that include Tom’s voice. At times his voice has a clear pulse to it and is almost melodic.

I’m posting this here for a couple of reasons.

1. I’d like to share these tracks with a wider audience

2. I’d like to have Tom’s permission and have no idea how to reach him.

Maybe Andrew can help me out. I can post the music and provide a link so that Wright can have a listen.

peace

Paul

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