Prayer to Jesus
I thought Joel and my conversation about biblical grounds of praying to Jesus rather than to God the Father wouldn’t do any more justice to the post ‘Am I sure that I am saved’, so I decided to start this new thread.
To answer your question, Joel, what I mean with prayer and if it is biblical to ‘talk’ to Jesus, I want to say that I do see a difference between ‘talking’ to someone and ‘praying’. Paul was indeed ‘talking’ to Jesus on several occasions. But so were the Pharisees when they met him and thousands of other people. That didn’t mean they ‘prayed’ to him. And in many visions of Angels and even Demons and spirits (like Samuel’s spirit) humans were actually verbally and visibly engaging with them. If ‘talking’ means ‘praying’ it is biblical to pray to Angels, for example, precisely because people ‘talked’ to them. Jesus made it clear in many occasions that he was there to glorify the Father. He referred humans to God. He invited them to pray to God in an intimate way, hence the word ‘father’. I do not think there is a lot of ground in using visions of Christ that caused verbal interactions to proof prayer to Jesus is a biblical concept, unless prayer for you is simply ‘talking’ to someone but as I said then you must expand the possibility of prayer to Angels and such also. Yes, possibly Paul requested from Jesus to remove the thorn in his flesh. Possibly it was God the Father. But it was certainly God the Father that Paul directed his thanksgiving to. Even thanksgiving for Christ he directed to God the Father and not to Jesus himself. And that is pretty strong, I think.