Everything Must Change (see the synopsis in the first part of this review) will be read by many as a challenge to the modern church to exchange an ineffectual and theologically suspect notion of what it means to be Christian for an ‘emerging’ understanding that offers a credible hope of global transformation. That is certainly part of McLaren’s intention. But the main aim of the book, it seems to me, is to challenge an unbelieving world to defect from the dominant system, to disbelieve in the destructive framing story, and to trust instead in the new framing story of Jesus. It is, as McLaren puts it, a ‘religious book, but in a worldly and unconventional and ultimately positive way’ (3); it aspires to change public opinion (269).
In that regard Everything Must Change is quite exceptional in daring to call our modern consumerist, inequitable and bellicose society to abandon its covert shaping narrative and believe in the radical alternative of Jesus’ message about the kingdom of God. Whether or not the book and any movement that it may generate should prove successful in the long run, it seems to me that McLaren has again done what he does best: he has gone striding off, with a genial but purposeful glint in his eye, in roughly the right direction – give or take 180° or so – while everyone else stands around dithering or squabbling or engineering their online fiefdoms. He is searching passionately for the biggest and most audacious practical outcome of the emerging church’s conviction that Jesus’ good news must have public and political relevance. What do we have to do, what do we have to believe, what has to happen, what has to change for Jesus to be the answer not just to the problem of personal sin but to the massive interlocking crises that threaten to terminate the well-being and prosperity of modern society?
It is an extravagant ambition and it requires extravagant means. McLaren knows that if he is going to recommend the story of Jesus to the world as a viable alternative both to the dominant framing narrative of economic and military imperialism and to the tired counternarratives of Christendom, he must radically change the rhetoric of belief. So like much of his writing, the book is a polemical, polarizing, sometimes impertinent, often iconoclastic exercise in metaphor-forming, language-shifting, and concept-stretching. We are not on solid ground here and we are likely to have some difficulty standing upright.
And if Jesus is going to change the world, what sort of community will his followers have to be? Not an institutional church fussing over its organization and doctrine, but something much more radical, rampant, risk-taking - a ‘divine peace insurgency’, ‘God’s unterror movement’, a ‘global economy of love’, ‘God’s sacred ecosystem’. For some these metaphors will wonderfully capture the subversive and redemptive potential of a community of grace; to others they will sound contrived and precious. But I think we have to find ways to reimagine and redescribe the being of the church in the world. The creative process will be chaotic and disorienting; but I think it is well worth running after the genial and purposeful McLaren to get a better sense of how things appear through his eyes.
Still, it has to be said that an extravagant ambition creates extravagant problems. I share much of Andrew Jones’ anguished ambivalence about this book but I am inclined to attribute the problems fundamentally to the fact that McLaren is trying very hard to reimagine the kingdom of God for people who live outside the boundaries of any form of serious Christian commitment. So to my mind the question that arises is this: To what extent has a biblical theology been adapted or filtered or truncated for the sake of - or as a consequence of - the book’s distinctive rhetorical purpose? Or to put it more bluntly: Can we really make the Jesus of the Gospels come up with an answer to the world’s biggest problems? These are by no means easy questions to answer, particularly when McLaren is doing his best to reconceptualize a populist theology that is already in a state of extreme flux. So I put forward this critique with some hesitation, aware that it would be very easy, given a slight shift of perspective, to evaluate the book both more positively and more negatively.
As yes, more negatively….
The ever vigilant Tim Challies has argued that Everything Must Change is evidence that the emerging church is ‘moving farther and farther away from the doctrine of the Bible’. Challies is not an especially careful reviewer and he could really pay more attention to what McLaren is actually saying. What he hears as mockery of traditional doctrines is more often than not mockery of the distortions that occur when scripture is forced into the restrictive grid of traditional doctrine. For example, McLaren’s rewriting of the Magnificat in the thought-forms of a conventional theology is provocative and satirical (102-103) and invites misunderstanding; but he is surely right to highlight the fact that Mary’s song makes little sense within the narrow purview of much modern evangelical piety.
Challies also complains that in McLaren’s theology ‘Men and women of all creeds can be followers of Jesus living out the kingdom of God even if they have never heard His name.’ As evidence of this he points to McLaren’s list of people ‘in whom we have apparently seen Jesus’ story echoed: Saint Francis, Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, Oscar Romero, Mahatma Gandhi, Saint Claire, Jane Goodall, and so on’. But what McLaren actually says is that the story of the kingdom of God ‘has echoed through history in the dreams of our best and brightest’ - followed by the offending list of names (275). His point, seemingly, is that throughout the ages believers and non-believers alike have dreamed of, imagined, a better world than the one that is currently being mangled by the suicide machine. Insofar as the kingdom of God stands in opposition to greed, injustice and violence, it constitutes a hope that is not confined to the community of those who claim to be Christians.
Does
Jesus’ announcement about the coming of the kingdom of God encourage us
to hope for global social, political and economic transformation?
But that ‘insofar as’ is critical, and I understand why Challies feels uncomfortable. The Magnificat is not a song about personal salvation, but neither is it a song of global social transformation: what it foresees is the coming deliverance of downtrodden Israel from the power of its mighty enemies. McLaren appears to understand this: ‘Mary celebrates that God is going to upset the dominance hierarchies typical of empire so that the nation of Israel can experience the fulfilment of its original promise’ (103). But it is not shown how we get from that particular political-religious liberation of the covenant people to the grandiose hope of global transformation that the book holds out.
The problem lies in the phrase ‘typical of empire’. The assumption behind this appears to be that the challenge to Roman imperialism entailed in the New Testament story about Jesus merely exemplifies a universal challenge to all forms of imperialism. For McLaren the Magnificat is illustrative of the fact that the Bible is the story of the ‘partnership between God and humanity to save and transform all of human society and avert global self-destruction’ (94). Really? In the future foreseen by the New Testament story neither Judaism nor Rome is to be saved from self-destruction. So why should we so confidently conclude that God now is in partnership with humanity to save the whole world from whatever global social and environmental catastrophe we are heading towards?
The coming of the kingdom of God in the New Testament is specifically the coming of YHWH to set his people free from the concrete, historical consequences of their sin and to install his own regent over them in place of a spectrum of oppressive political and spiritual forces. Once the reign of God over his people has been established, we can then ask about the implications of that state of affairs - that régime change - for the missional being of the church in the world. But it seems to me that in McLaren’s argument there is no real need for a historical people of God: Jesus’ message of the kingdom directly confronted imperial pretensions then and it directly confronts imperial pretensions now.
So what has happened to the church in McLaren’s
reconstruction of the story of Jesus?
One of the things that especially bothers me about the way McLaren has presented his argument in this book is that it overlooks the prophetic function of the covenant community (see on this theme the ‘TREK conversation in Portland, Oregon, on the prophetic church’). The problem with reading the story of Jesus as essentially an archetypal challenge to empire as an unjust and self-serving system is that it rather makes the story of Israel superfluous to requirements. Ironically, we see the same sort of narrative compression at work here that we find in the modern evangelical reduction of scripture to a myth of personal salvation. McLaren does an excellent job of bringing into focus the historical and political aspects of the gospel narrative so that it becomes clear that followers of Jesus cannot neglect the systemic dimensions of human sin. But Jesus does not, in fact, challenge empire - his anger is directed against Jewish iniquity; he is barely interested in Rome. Rather he calls into existence a new community that, through its trust in the living God, will withstand first Jewish and then pagan opposition. He does not set out to reform empire. He reforms Israel so that it will fulfil its vocation to be a holy nation and a viable alternative to empire.
It seems to me that the central ‘missional’ argument of scripture is that a people is called out of the world to be an alternative humanity in the midst of the nations and cultures of the world - a redeemed, renewed, transformed microcosm within the macrocosm, a world-within-a-world, an ecosystem-within-an-ecosystem. The microcosm offers a place of refuge, so to speak, for those who wish to - or feel called to - escape from the corruption and futility of the macrocosm and be reconciled with the creator God. But it also stands as a prophetic witness to how God intended creation to be. The call to transformation in the Bible is aimed not at changing the world but at maintaining the distinctiveness or holiness of the microcosm for the sake of the integrity of its witness to the creative God.
There is something very appealing about McLaren’s vision of a community of followers who ‘develop practices of spiritual formation so they and their children for generations to come would be able to learn, live, and grow as part of the solution, not part of the problem; as agents of healing, not as carriers of the disease; as revolutionaries seeking to dismantle and subvert the suicidal system, not as functionaries and drones seeking to serve and preserve it’. But I struggle to persuade myself that such a community, even if it came to pass, might really change the world. It just seems to go too much against the grain of the biblical narrative. The argument of Genesis 1-11 is that human society has chosen to go its own way in defiance of the creative God. So the invitation to Abraham in Genesis 12, essentially, is to be a people apart, whose responsibility is not to change a world that will always want to be its own divinity but to keep the law of God, whether written on tablets of stone or on tablets of human hearts.
The deepest prophetic task now may be to build communities that will survive whatever turmoil awaits us - or if I can put it in more lurid theological terms, the coming of the ‘wrath’ of God on our world. I don’t want to be misunderstood here. This does not mean that we do not work to transform society. If for no other reason we seek concretely to redeem the world in bits and pieces because that is what the prophetic statement of hope is made out of: the drama of love and justice in action. But we transform on the basis of having been transformed. It is only as God’s redeemed people that we experience repentance and grace, reconciliation with the Creator God. I would like to have heard in this book a much more forceful call to the whole church now, progressive and regressive, to live itself under the framing narrative of the kingdom of God, to be in itself a transformed society, equitable, peaceable, compassionate and environmentally friendly.
Oh no! Don’t tell me there’s no doctrine of atonement!
It is another of Challies’ gripes that McLaren appears to have no place for an atonement theology in his thinking, having apparently rejected the idea that Jesus’ message is ‘one of sinful men becoming reconciled to a holy God through an atoning sacrifice’. I disagree with this traditional encapsulation of the good news. It would be nearer the mark to say that Jesus’ message was that sinful Israel could be reconciled to a holy God through his death as an atoning sacrifice - and that everything else flows from that transformation (see ‘Does the new book really say that the NT has no application to us today?’). But there is certainly a problem.
McLaren writes that ‘Jesus challenged people in his day to stop believing the empire’s empty promises and stop fearing its threats through a brilliant strategy’ (271). That strategy was to suffer and be killed as a vulnerable lamb in order to expose and defeat the ‘wolfish powers’ of empire. The argument is clearly reminiscent of Paul’s argument in Colossians 2:15 that God ‘disarmed the principalities and powers and made a public example of them, triumphing over them’ in Christ or in the cross. I’m not sure it is so clear that Paul has the oppressive powers of empire in mind in Colossians 2 - he seems to be more concerned about religious or spiritual practices. But more importantly, McLaren has again skipped a crucial stage in the argument. Jesus’ death was not in the first place against empire but for the people of God, not an exposé of the sins of Rome but an expiation for the sins of Israel - and, like it or not, it is here that atonement theology must come into play. Jesus died to save at least a remnant of Israel from the wrath of God that would take the eventual form of the devastating war against Rome.
Do we really need to abandon all thought of a transcendent eschatology in order to take seriously the worldly implications of the kingdom of God?
Andrew Jones has raised questions about McLaren’s eschatology in this book. They are probably not quite the same questions I would raise, but there are problems certainly. It seems to me that McLaren has simply pushed the ‘realized eschatology’ too far when he says that the ‘new heaven and new earth’ of Revelation 21 defines ‘not a different space-time universe, but a new way of living that is possible within this universe, a new societal system that is coming as surely as God is just and faithful’ (296). What John describes at the end of the book of Revelation is a world in which there is no more wickedness, suffering and death (Rev. 20:14; 21:4, 8), populated by those whose names were written in the book of life (Rev. 20:15); and as a culmination to the complex ‘new creation’ motif that runs through scripture, I think we have to read this as a genuinely transcendent prospect.
I agree, broadly speaking, that we should reject an ‘eschatology of abandonment and despair’ that looks only for an escape to heaven and offers no inspiration for serious social engagement - though I would argue that this heaven-oriented eschatology nevertheless had a crucial place in the New Testament narrative. But it seems to me not only biblically necessary but also missionally appropriate to maintain and affirm a belief in the final and complete transformation of all things. It anchors our commitment to be new creation, authentic humanity, a sacred ecosystem in the most profound cosmic hope; it ensures that the creative God is finally sovereign. The last enemy of creation is not empire; it is always death, and not even the most optimistic advocate of an ‘unfolding, emergent, spiraling process’ can hope to defeat that enemy in this world.
The Bible is less ambitious than Everything Must
Change
So I think that McLaren is right in wanting to reconceptualize the potential of the gospel for a post-Christendom era. He is right to resist the privatizing tendencies of much modern theology. He is right to draw attention to the social and political implications of the good news. He is right in wanting to translate the high-minded talk into concrete and effective action. He is right in wanting to believe that Jesus can make a difference not just in our hearts or in our domesticated churches but out there in a dangerous world, where greed and fear and ignorance and anger drive powerful narratives of self-destruction.
But I am not sure that he has reconstructed the emerging political message in a way that is consistent with the outlook of the New Testament. My argument would be that the good news of the kingdom of God in the New Testament aims neither at the salvation of as many individuals as possible from eternal punishment in hell nor at the salvation of humanity as a whole from the suicide machine that it has constructed for itself. Rather it aims to save and transform the people of God to function as a consistent alternative ecosystem, in which the justice and compassion and creativity of God are manifested.
This ecosystem in Christ always constitutes by its very existence a challenge to the corrupting systems and hierarchies of the world; it should always demonstrate that things can be different; and it should always maintain the hope that sin and death will not have the last word in the long and tortuous history of humankind. But should we expect it to catalyze a global transformation? I don’t think so.

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Absolutely! Not by changing the gospels, but by hearing them in their original context. We have to unmake (deconstruct) the story. It was morphed by institutional Christianity into something other than a story about the world’s biggest problems. Answering the worlds biggest problems is exactly what the gospel does. The gospel is the notion that real peace comes through justice, real power comes through service, real wealth comes through sharing, real life comes through death, and real glory comes through humility. When we implement those ideals on a global level we get a global kingdom of God. For too long, Christianity has bound those ideals to an individual level.
Andrew, you seem to be stuck in the story (metaphor). The story crafted in the New Testament of YHWH coming to set his people free from sin is symbolism for exactly what Brian describes in this book. The question is how we will live out the narrative of YHWH coming to set us free from our sin. It is nice that you like to talk about the story. We need that. But, what we have often missed and what we find in Brian’s books is a realistic picture of how that can work. When we follow Brian’s advice and create an allegiance to social and political methods of change, then we are living out the story told in the biblical myths.
YHWH is coming again every day. When a nation decided that every child would receive education without regards to race or economic situation, then YHWH reversed the past sins of racism and greed. When the response to a war was decades of sacrifice, forgiveness, and rebuilding of the defeated, then YHWH reversed the sins of violence. We have opportunities every day to bring YHWH to the rescue by installing its ideals in our society. Christ is not a man that will one day literally rule the world. Christ is a spirit that rules every time humans employ his ideals. We are his body as he is resurrected in us. When that happens the kingdom comes and we get a taste of it. It is here and it is coming. It is a reality and a possibility.
Andrew, that is simply not honest and you’ve overlooked why Jesus opposed the Jewish iniquity. He was not upset at Jews rather than Rome, he was upset at their cooperation with the Empire. Jewish leaders had joined the Empire and neglected its task. Jesus stood in opposition to the values of Empire. He protested the temple, not because the temple is a bad idea, but because the temple had become an Empire and a tool of the larger Empire. He echoed the prophetic voices that came before him as they protested the imperial leanings of the temple. His enemy is imperialism in all its forms. I think you are picking up the residual effects of his protest and mistaking it for apathy about Rome.
On atonement, I disagree with McLaren and with you, Andrew. Neither of you go far enough in your deconstruction. You both imply that Jesus chose death (you more than Brian). I disagree. He chose a vocation that he knew would likely mean death, but he did not choose death and his death didn’t in itself accomplish some supernatural result. It did work as a model for non-violent protest and a critique of how empire does business, but it wasn’t a spiritual choice by either Jesus or YWHW.
Your critique of Brian’s Eschatology is also off-base. Brian correctly sees the bible’s eschatology as a grand metaphor for how the world could possibly be transformed if we accept the challenge. He then lays out practical ways to make that a reality. I think you are leaning to much toward a “left behind” type of eschatology that imagines many of the metaphors in Revelation to be interpreted literally. You seem to buy into the left behind approach that God will supernaturally intervene and remake the world. The bible’s prophetic books are metaphors of hopes and possibilitis not supernatural prognostications. You’ve criticized Brian for painting a picture and giving concrete directions for how to make that eschatological possibility a reality. I applaud him for painting this picture and writing in a way that will appeal to a broad audience.
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It’s a rich response - too much in it to reply to at once. To start with though, I wondered about this paragraph:
I would stress that I do think that there is a strong anti-imperialist theme in the New Testament. But working on this review I did come to wonder what form it actually takes in the Gospels - and even if it is there at all. What would you point to as evidence that Jesus explicitly and directly opposed imperialism? Is there any reference to Rome in the context of the temple sayings and actions? In making use of Jeremiah’s complaint about the temple he attacks a corrupt hierarchy and sacerdotal system, but empire functions in the prophetic narrative as the force by which corrupt Israel will be judged. It seems to me that Jesus follows basically the same story-line.
You seem pretty convinced that the anti-imperialist theme is there - but where exactly? Where does Jesus say that he is upset with their cooperation with the empire?
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Excuse me for a second, while I make a quick comment. Andrew said that
Both Walter Brueggemann in The Prophetic Imagination and Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan in The Last Week make the case that Jesus’ actions at the temple were aimed at the collaboration between religious and political elites.
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Jacob, I agree that collaboration between the priesthood and the domination system, the Herodian and Roman hierarchies, is likely to have been part of the problem that Jesus confronted in the temple. But it still seems to me that the basic thrust of his words and action in the temple is not against Rome but against corrupt Israel. I don’t have Brueggemann’s book so I can’t comment on that; but I don’t really see where Borg and Crossan in The Last Week make the incident specifically an anti-imperialist protest. They conclude basically: ‘Jesus’ action in the temple was a symbolic fulfillment of Jeremiah’s prophetic threat about its divine destruction if worship substituted for justice’ (52).
The point of Jeremiah’s ‘den of robbers’ saying is that the Jews act as robbers (‘you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, burn incense to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known’) and then treat the temple as a ‘den’, a place of refuge and safety. For this reason God will destroy the temple just as he destroyed the northern sanctuary at Shiloh (Jer. 7:8-15). So Jesus’ argument is parallel: the Jews and in particular their leaders act wickedly, imagining that they are protected by the sacrificial system; but God will destroy the temple. Where is the express anti-imperialist message in this? Jeremiah actually encouraged submission to the Babylonians rather than opposition, as even Borg and Crossan note (47).
Borg and Crossan also put forward the intriguing argument that Jesus made a ‘peasant procession’ into Jerusalem on the same day that Pilate made an imperial procession into Jerusalem (2-5). It’s a shame they give no evidence for these events being on the same day. I like the idea, but I still doubt that it indicates an expressly anti-imperialist intent. Jesus no doubt believed himself to be enacting the coming of YHWH as king to Jerusalem to liberate his people from political-military oppression (cf. Zech. 9:8-10). But to suggest that this symbolized a peasant revolt against an unjust imperial domination system seems to me to be politicizing the event in the wrong way. At issue is who reigns over Israel - and then what happens when God comes to reign over his people. To characterize the entry into Jerusalem as ‘an anti-imperial, anti-triumphal one, a deliberate lampoon of the conquering emperor entering a city on horseback through gates opened in abject submission’ seems to me at best the wrong focus. For Luke at least the journey into Jerusalem culminates in the explicit prospect of the overthrow of Jerusalem, not of Rome (Lk. 19:41-44).
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What’s the relationship between Jerusalem and Rome? It seems to overthrow Jerusalem implies a political action against Rome since Jerusalem fit within the Roman Empire.
But I see what you mean. There is nothing explicit about Rome in what Jesus says/does in the temple itself.
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But if Rome is the means by which Jerusalem is overthrown, Rome ends up perpetrating political action against itself. I think that the New Testament does unequivocally announce an eventual judgment on Rome as a power that was not only inherently unjust but more importantly directly opposed to the God of Israel. But this comes later when the church moves out into the Gentile world. I don’t see that Jesus really looks beyond AD 70 and judgment on Jerusalem.
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Andrew,
Who the heck do you think was ruling over Israel if it was not the Roman Empire? Who is God expected to replace? Who would have been pissed off at the idea of a new messiah coming to lead Israel against its oppressors?
I don’t understand the distinction you make here. If Jesus saw himself as the coming king ot liberate his people, if he clearly trained people with how to protest and resist Roman soldiers, and he clearly had a large following, then how is that not leading a revolt? Maybe he didn’t have enough time to make a big splash. Are you ONLY able to imagine a military revolt? It seems obvious Jesus is presenting a revolt but a NON-miliatry NON-violent revolt. His revolt was “not of this world”. It was something other than the type of revolt that “this world” created(imperialistic violence and domination).
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1) It is clear in Jesus instructions about how to specifically carry out political non-violent protest against the imperial forces (carrying the packs 2 miles when asked to go one, giving their undergarments when asked for their cloak, etc). Walter Wink offers a detailed analysis in “Jesus and non-violence”. Borg/Crossan echo that in several of their works if you are interested in more detail. This is not an instruction to simply play nice. It is political protest in its clearest form.
2) It is clear in the parables that tell of the meanings of Jesus mission. The gospel of Mark shows this in the parable of Jesus casting out demons. That was a clear interpretation of Jesus’ overall mission to cast out the infestation of corruption in the capital - Romans (pagans) and their corrupt sympathizers. Note the use of pigs in the story to drive the metaphor home.
3) It is common knowledge that there was unrest amongst these Jews against rome. The wars before and after Jesus’ life is evidence that this is central to any discussion of power in Israel. Are you questioning the facts of Roman occupation Andrew? Surely you jest. How would Jesus NOT be concerned with the main concerns of his people? I see no way for a person to be Jewish in Israel in the 1st century and not be aware and very upset about the Roman occupation UNLESS you were on the payroll and even then, it would likely be against your will.
4) For any of these authors to suggest that Jesus is king of the jews and the messiah of Israel is to suggest he is the one meant to lead them in revolt against the occupying forces. What else could anybody assume messiah meant to anyone in the Jewish 1st century? To say Jesus is king is to say Herod is not. To say the kingdom of God is at hand is clearly saying that the kingdom of Caesar is ending. To say his kingdom is “not of this world” is to say that it is not of the current “era” or “reign of Caesar”. That means this world or era of Caesar’s occupation is about to end. He didn’t say “family of God”. He said KINGdom. Messiah was the title of the leader coming to destroy Israels enemies and flip the balance of power. I know you’ve read Revelation Andrew. What the heck do you think they are talking about, if not the Empire?
5) If the powers in Jerusalem were not Roman sympathizers, then they would have been dead or not in power. It is common knowledge of history exactly how Rome killed or removed any dissenting leaders of its occupied territories and put their own peole in charge. Prevelance of tax collectors in a host of stories is evidence that supports the historical assessment of Roman dominance and mistreatment of these people.
I do agree that it is less than obvious to us today in the Gospels. One of the reasons we lost that is because there was an intentional revision of history applied inside the New Testament to shift the object of Jesus’ (and early christian) protest from injustice and inclusion in community toward a more religious conflict with Judaism. But, that is the product of the later retelling of the story. Note the differences between Paul’s own description of his escape from king Aretas in damascus (2 cor 11:30-32) vs. the later new testament attempts to change the story into “the jews” who plotted to kill him (acts 9:23). The blame has shifted and we have blown that distinction into even greater proportion today. Add to that the fact that the most damning critic of the Empire is completely encased in coded metaphor (Revelation).
Lastly, please note that I use the word Empire to address imperialist ideas that existed in both the temple and the Roman pagans. I’m not sure you would have been able to cleanly separate the 2 after over 2 centuries of mingling and assignment and trading of power. For Jesus and his fellow peasant protestors, it would have appeared as one big system of corruption with systemic effects on them all. There was no separation of church and state and no lawyers to state the case for drawing distinctions. Rome ruled, and if anyone had any power in the temple they were part of the system of that power, then that was well established long before Jesus birth and long after his death.
The point of all this, and what shows up in Brian’s book, is that whatever system of power Jesus was protesting (either the corrupt temple, Rome and/or both) the statements are political. All critique of power, abuse and injustice is political. We make the mistake of assuming that since Jesus didn’t live in a democracy and run for official public office then he wasn’t political and therefore we shouldn’t be either. But that is far from the truth. Jesus positioned himself (or was positioned by his later story tellers) to be the messiah of Israel - the world’s highest political office of the day. Nothing can be more political and following him must mean we are involved in something very much in the realm of public policy even if our methods of changing public policy look very different today.
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1. Why is carrying the load an extra mile an example of political protest, which Jesus does not talk about, and not of loving one’s enemies, which he does talk about - in fact, which he talks about 3 verses later (Matt. 5:41-44)? This is advice not on how to protest imperialism but on how to deal with persecution.
2. I agree that there is some sort of symbolic connection between the casting out of demons and the Roman presence. But the emphasis still is on the liberation of Israel from oppression - ultimately satanic oppression - rather than an anti-imperialist polemic. Moreover, I would not wish to reduce the healing of demoniacs to allegories of political revolution.
3. You have misunderstood me. Jesus anticipated the liberation of Israel from its enemies, which is a thoroughly political programme, but I don’t see this as quite the same as the argument that we find in Borg, Crossan and now, seemingly McLaren, that Jesus had an overtly anti-imperialist agenda.
4. As I said in response to Jacob’s question, I am inclined to differentiate quite sharply between Jesus’ eschatology and the eschatology of the early church once it had moved out into confrontation with paganism. I don’t think the Jesus of the Gospels looks beyond AD 70 - he doesn’t foresee the fall of Rome. But I agree that for Paul (notably in 2 Thess.) and for John in Revelation, there is a clear expectation that Rome as the enemy of God and the emperor as rival to Christ will be overthrown.
5. The fact that the powers in Jerusalem were Roman sympathizers does not alter things. Jesus opposed the Jerusalem hierarchy not because they had bought in to imperialism but because they were not looking after the interests of the owner of the vineyard. The central issue in the Gospels is whether God is king over his people, whether the leaders of Israel are serving God’s interests or their own, and what needs to change for a ‘good shepherd’ to lead the sheep.
I see no reason whatsoever to accept the argument that the account of Jesus in the Gospels was revised in favour of a more religious understanding of his conflict with Judaism. Through the whole of the Old Testament love of God precedes love of neighbour, idolatry precedes injustice. Jesus was concerned first about the kingship of God, secondly about the moral and political life of the people. The entry into Jerusalem, as I said aove, cannot be seen in the light of Zechariah 9:8-10 as a peasant protest against empire; it is a prophetic announcement that God is coming to reign over his people in place of corrupt Jewish and pagan authorities.
I don’t have a problem with the argument that the gospel has profound political implications or that Jesus had a political agenda. But I am not persuaded that we understand this correctly by framing it simply as an anti-imperialist agenda. That doesn’t get at the heart of the issue with the kingdom of God.
I think it is right for Christians to be actively involved in the pursuit of justice. But I don’t see that as the primary calling of the church, or the primary form of following Jesus. My view is that the biblical story puts the burden first on the people of God to be an alternative to the world, to model a renewed creation, to demonstrate amongst ourselves what justice and mercy and peaceful look like, to show how in Christ ingrained human contraries and conflicts can be overcome, etc.
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1. The one mile restriction was a Roman law meant to limit the abuse of citizens by soldiers. Soldiers would be put to death if they forced a citizen to carry a pack more than one mile. For a jew to try and carry the pack two miles meant the soldier would be forced into the odd (almost comical) position of trying to take the pack back from the citizen. It was “lampoon” of the law. A clear political protest. The fact of the law is proof there needed to be a law which meant there must have been abuse. In the same way, the idea of giving him your undergarment when asked for your cloak is a way of standing naked in the street to protest the abuse. For these people nakedness is shameful for the viewer not the naked person. It is a 1st century “mooning” of a soldier who has harrassed you by showing your bare bottom.
2. “ultimately satanic oppression - rather than an anti-imperialist polemic”. Why satanic oppression? What would satanic oppression look like if not through miliary defeat and economic/political rule by a pagan force? You can suggest it is “satanic oppression” but that is the metaphoric explanation of the real oppression. It is the same type of oppression we saw discussed by the OT prophets. Satanic oppression or “removing of God’s protection” is always how Israel saw its military defeats.
4. We don’t have Jesus’ eschatology. We do have his story told through the lens of late first - early 2nd generation eschatology. I agree it wasn’t about the “fall of Rome”. It was about ending the oppression created by the occupation of Rome. I agree Jesus is not looking “beyond AD 70”. However, we are being told about Jesus by authors who are writing during and after the war (66-70). The war and its aftermath is the major backdrop to the way the stories are written. The synoptics are in the heat of the war and have a corresponding edge, however John’s Gospel seems to be written by a community that has given up hope in ending oppression “here and now” and now look for victory in the “hereafter”. When we try to read them together as one story we make a paradox where there need not be any paradox. It is much more clear to see the differences as different eras (pre and post AD70). The paradox fades in this light as we see different agendas underlying the different stories. They tell us more about the authors than Jesus himself.
5. “Jesus opposed the Jerusalem hierarchy not because they had bought in to imperialism but because they were not looking after the interests of the owner of the vineyard.” But you ignore the REASONS why the temple system was not looking after the intrerests of Jews. The occupation of Rome, the collaboration between Temple and Rome, and the unpure (corrupt appointed roman influences) was a key factor in creating the injustice. The book “Caiaphas: Friend of Rome and Judge of Jesus?” by Helen Bond offers some further information.
It’s only because later christians have domesticated the story and made it about a supernatural end of the world that my view seems “simply as an anti-imperialist agenda”. If you no longer look through the lens of the domesticated Empire that absorbed the gospel, then it wouldn’t seem like a step backwards for you. For me, it is a step forward to raise this story up to a HIGHER level of importance about political justice. The story has be relegated to mere folk lore about end-times and afterlife for too long. It is time to liberate the story from its domestication. I thank Brian McLaren for presenting this to his more Evangelical audience even if Tom Wright would prefer to drag it back down to a level of unimportance and make it merely another superstitious prediction of a mythical future.
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
Andrew’s review and critique of ‘Everything must change’ is entirely consistent with his own novel take on eschatology - good for him. A short sentence in his review leapt out for me, however: “But we transform on the basis of having been transformed.” As yet, the principal weakness, it seems to me, in Andrew’s theological system, is that it gives no hint of how people outside the immediate 1st century beneficiaries of Jesus’s death and resurrection, are to be transformed. There are no grounds for such a transformation within a system that relegates most of the biblical material, the events in the life of Jesus especially, to a particular people at a particular period in history.
Having explored the various synopses and reviews of McLaren’s book referred to, I think I would find equal mixtures of things to agree with, and things to disagree with. Most of all, I think I would agree with his analysis of the framing narratives of our (modern, developed) world, and the hi-jacking of religion to reinforce, rather than challenge, the narratives.
To bring such a challenge, we need, of course, more than narratives - though perception of the narratives in need of subversion and challenge is the first step. Changed lives, followed by changed lifestyle, is what Christianity has always offered, and to which it has always returned in various recovery movements through the ages. At the centre of this argument is the person of Jesus, for whom the cross was the defining feature of his life, lifestyle, mission and ministry - challenging individuals to enter his new society, based on inner transformation.
How much can we expect to change? This is an issue which has more recently been raised not only by Liberation Theology, but by movements such as ‘Transformations’ (George Otis, Sentinel Ministries etc). But how much can we realistically expect to change in the world? Millennial theorists have been arguing the case for at least the last 200 years. I take the view that we can be more optimistic than many, but less universalist than some this side of the return of Jesus.
A dream of a better society begins in the practical and often sacrificial decisions of those who believe that dreams can be fleshed out in action. A more comprehensive global and historical perspective of church history here would be of help. The anabaptists, and communal expressions of the radical reformation and beyond, continue to be pointers to social transformation. But overwhelmingly, the evangelical pioneers of the 18th century onwards have been the major engines of social change both at home and through mission, across the world (through healthcare provision, education, social welfare, social justice etc).
Methodism was theologically an evangelical movement with social justice and reform in its roots. The so-called Clapham Sect set the wheels in motion for the abolition of the slave trade, and ultimately slavery in the western world. Shaftesbury was an evangelical who initiated major social reform through acts of Parliament in Britain in the 19th century. Rowntree, Fry and Cadbury had a huge influence on philanthropic reform, providing model communities which have influenced town planning to this day, and prison reform continues to be the subject of the Rowntree Trust. William Booth was a Methodist who worked to a major blueprint for social reform, set out in his “In darkest England, and the way out.” Booth was theologically an evangelical par excellence. Booth’s book draws attention to Livingstone’s “In Darkest Africa”, which it consciously echoed, and Livingstone is himself remembered as an evangelical missionary whose major contribution to the world was the exposure of the slave trade in Africa, and ultimately its end. To this day, his statue at Victoria Falls is one of the few public monuments to white pioneers which has not been destroyed or removed.
In more recent times, there has been a huge surge in social activism from the stables of the evangelical church. In the UK, we have the various branches of ‘Care’, focusing on public and family life issues. I received this morning a briefing from Care about the forthcoming Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill which is passing through the UK Upper House on its way to the House of Commons. Care has been incalculably influential in lobbying for and amending legislation such as this over the last 30 years. We have Steve Chalke’s Oasis Trust, which in this country and overseas provides many ways of engaging faith with social issues and action. Local councils and police authorities are welcoming with open arms movements known as Street Pastors, or Street Angels, who provide a non-statutory presence on the often violent and drunken streets of our town centres in the night time ‘Dr Hyde’ transformation from their ‘Dr Jekyll’ daytime face and personality. The evangelical church community is behind this movement. Christian youth movements are being directed to summers of service in the lost housing estates of our big cities, which are developing into a longer term presence. In Manchester, the Worldwide Message Tribe has provided a model of youth engagement with society which has been a major influence on schools and inner city housing areas. This influence is in itself only a more recent development of the on-going and increasing work of Youth for Christ across our British towns and cities.
I could go on and on, but it would be extremely rare these days to be in any British city or town of any size where there was not some form of active social engagement taking place, sponsored especially by the practitioners of an evangelical faith which, it has been implied, is either moribund or ineffective.
All of this does not amount to a wholesale transformation of society; neither does it necessarily bring into the frame a challenge and alternative to the controlling stories of our culture, which negatively influence Christian lifestyle and practice. But such challenges are bring brought, and they are not the sole prerogative of the so-called emerging church. In the USA, I would have thought one of the most effective sources of challenge to culture and government has been Jim Wallis’s ‘Sojourners’ movement. Wallis’s book, ‘God’s Politics’ became a bestseller amongst all types of books sold in the US - and deservedly so. McLaren, and his latest book, are heavily promoted on the Sojourner’s website, and clearly McLaren and Wallis have much in common. Perhaps in time, McLaren’s theological innovations will settle down into something more in line with mainstream belief - which has produced a Wallis, and maybe in the end will prove that a ‘Left Behind’ premillennial pessimism and withdrawal from the world was an aberration which needed to be spewed out.
So should there be an ‘emergent’ critique of church and theology? Yes to both - because times of cultural change such as we are profoundly experiencing, need radical reappraisals of our belief and practice. But for me, the catchphrase tends to hold good: that the antidote to abuse (theologically, ecclesiologically) is not non-use but correct use. In other words, highlighting and rejecting theological or ecclesiological distortions should not lead us to dispose of the real thing - no matter how profoundly or extensively our reasons for such a disposal may be argued.
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Peter, this is simply not true. Yes, my work has focused for the most part on reading the New Testament in its historical context, and I have argued that there is a contingency to much of the theological content (eschatology in particular) that is obscured and distorted by modern rationalizations of the complex narrative content of the Bible.
But if Israel became renewed creation through the story of the Son of man who suffers and is vindicated (both in its condensed application to Jesus and in its expanded application to the early church as it confronted first Jewish and then Roman opposition), then anyone who subsequently becomes part of that community must leave behind the old humanity and put on the new humanity - must become new creation:
Even in this simplest representation there are more than adequate grounds for personal and corporate transformation. A person leaves behind the programmes and dispositions of the macrocosm and comes to live under the reign of God through Christ, obedient to the law of the Spirit.
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
Andrew,
Given the amount of time I’ve spent here at OST, as well as my obsession with Genesis 1-3, you’d think I’d understand by now what you mean by "renewed creation." You allude to it frequently, but I don’t believe I’ve read your exposition of this concept. Do you have a prior post to which you can point us?
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
Off the top of my head and in too much of a hurry, this is a bit clunky but not a bad summary: Cracks in the pavement: an emerging story of new creation.
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
Thanks Andrew: I remember this post, and I see that we had a brief discussion about it at the time. I’m not sure how important the renewal of the natural world in your understanding of Christianity; still, after reading that post again I have a few more questions.
You cite Yahweh’s command to humanity in Genesis 1:28: "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth." Then you say this:
It seems that the earth is pretty well filled up with humans by now, that the mandate has been more than carried out. Perhaps most of the humans aren’t up to God’s standards, as was the case before the Flood. Then, the story goes, God wiped nearly everyone out and started over with Noah and family. But in Genesis 9 God blesses Noah, tells him to be fruitful and multipy, and says that He won’t destroy humanity again. So God’s promise to Abraham — that his descendants will be as plentiful as the stars, that he will be the father of many nations — doesn’t rescind or override His promise to Noah. It’s a separate promise, operating in parallel with the creational mandate.
On the other hand, if you interpret the creation narratives as metaphors for the creation of Israel, then the renewal of creation idea makes more sense. In a comment on your "Cracks in the Pavement" post you said this about the intent of Genesis 1-11:
In that case, the early Genesis narratives would be interpreted as stories not about the creation of the universe but rather about the establishment of the nation of Israel. So, for example, the creation of Adam and Eve would be interpreted as God’s act of setting certain humans apart as his chosen ones; and both the Garden of Eden and the Flood would refer to God’s promises to His people, from which they are periodically barred through disobedience and to which they are restored through reconciliation with God. Is that roughly your thoughts about these texts?
You contend that the earth is cursed due to man’s disobedience, and contrast this curse with "the call to be an authentic creation in microcosm, humanity in prosperous harmony with its environment." I haven’t looked, but I don’t recall God issuing any "green" commandments to His people. Subdue the earth and rule over it, take possession of the land — that seems more the kind of thing God is recorded in the Bible as saying. Do you contend that pollution, global warming, loss of topsoil through overfarming, etc. constitute a curse from God on the land resulting from disobedience to God’s explicit moral commands, rather than a natural consequence of human excesses in multiplying, filling and subduing the land? Or do you equate the two; i.e., would you say that the world naturally operates in such a way that the consequences of irresponsible behavior naturally result in the corruption of the earth, which is functionally the same as if God specifically issued a curse?
Or maybe ecological inferences aren’t really justified in your idea of a renewed creation. Just as the creation of the earth could be read as a metaphor for the setting apart of the people of Israel, so too wouldn’t the curse on the earth be metaphorical for God’s rejection of his people? Or, alternatively, might you regard Israel itself as metaphorical, representing humankind in proper relationship with God, one another, and the earth?
Finally, what relationship do you see between the renewed earth and the new earth of Revelation 21? Are they the same thing, with the current earth being progressively transformed by people acting righteously and living lightly on the land? Or do you envision a wholly new and different earth eventually replacing the current one?
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A few comments, John, in response…
The point about humanity having failed to carry out the mandate on a global scale refers to the moment of Abram’s call to be the beginnng of a new creation, not to the present. Yes, the creation command was made to Noah, but my thought was that Noah’s descendants tripped up again at Babel, so although the assurance that humanity would not be destroyed remains in force, the realization of the original purpose of creation through the whole of humanity has again been missed. The promise to Noah and the promise to Abraham are not the same. God will not destroy the whole of humanity for its continuing disobedience, but he will see if the purpose of creation can be fulfilled through the microcosm of Abram’s family.
I would say, I think, that the creation stories are about the creation of the universe; they cannot be read as metaphors for the creation of Israel. They explain the place of Israel amongst the nations. However, I would certainly entertain the possibility that the form they take reflects in some ways Israel’s self-understanding and experience. But this is very much off the top of my head.
I agree that the ‘green’ parts of the argument are a little anachronistic. I do find, however, a strong theme in both the Old and New Testament that sees the sin of both humanity and of Israel reflected in the suffering of the natural world - and conversely the restoration of Israel celebrated in the natural world. For the most part this is a poetic or prophetic conceit. However, I am inclined to regard the original command to subdue the earth in the image of God as constituting an extension of God’s creative activity - and therefore as a benign activity. The fact that human industry can have a deleterious impact on the environment is a consequence of sin, but this is barely envisaged in the pre-industrial biblical worldview.
I do not think that Revelation describes a progressive transformation of the current earth to become the new heaven and new earth. The old earth and sky flee away when the throne of judgment appears (Rev. 20:11). In the new creation, significantly, suffering, evil and death have been destroyed finally (20:14; 21:4, 8). This constitutes, to my understanding, a complete ontological break, which is why I disagreed with Brian McLaren’s argument that Revelation 21 defines ‘a new way of living that is possible within this universe, a new societal system that is coming as surely as God is just and faithful’. For now the people of God anticipate that re-creation prophetically both in word and in action, as a sign of the presence of the creator God by the Spirit in his covenant people and as a sign of the fundamental hope that evil and death will not have the last word.
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Thanks for the clarifications, Andrew. Having re-read part one of your review of McLaren’s book I see the affinity of his position with "liberation theology," the Marx-inflected variant of Roman Catholicism that has been influential especially in Latin America. I’m also struck by your observation that "McLaren is trying very hard to reimagine the kingdom of God for people who live outside the boundaries of any form of serious Christian commitment." I presume that on both of those counts McLaren’s book faces significant resistance in evangelical circles, even among those who trace the outer and eccentric orbits that have emerged in recent years. On the other hand, McLaren would seem to offer a more welcoming reception to people who, regardless of religious beliefs, share common cause in resisting the materialism, military expansionism, economic injustice and environmental destructiveness and of the 21st century Western "Empire."
By insisting that people consciously confess belief in Christ before they can enter into Christian fellowship, the traditional gospel imposes an interpersonal gulf between believer and unbeliever, limiting the open expression of love and trust between one another. And when the Church positions itself as a microcosmic harbinger of the eschatological new Creation that will some day displace the present corrupted Creation in what you term "a complete ontological break," it erects a strutural barrier between itself and the larger world in which it is embedded. For those of us outside the faith and outside the Church, this insular gospel is at best irrelevant to the common cause of pursuing justice and peace for all in the present world. To the extent that the insular gospel deflects people’s zeal for justice and peace away from the world and into the Church, it becomes an obstacle to the common cause.
It’s certainly possible that McLaren grossly misconstrues the trajectory that God traces through history. It also might be impossible ultimately to achieve peace and justice in this world. However, as someone who can barely concede the possibility of any sort of god at all, let alone the militantly nationalistic God of Israel as described in the Old Testament, I’m eager to see what McLaren has to say.
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The church, of course, isn’t obligated always to justify itself to those outside the faith or, for that matter, to pursue a ‘common cause’ of justice and peace. I would argue that the church stands in the first place for the ‘righteousness or justice of God’ in a rather broad sense: the God who desires justice and peace, to be expressed first within the people of God; the God who justifies a people that has rebelled against him; and a God who will ultimately be vindicated or justified as Creator by overcoming the wickedness, suffering and death that corrupt this creation - that is, by making all things new.
This distinctive God-centred rather than humanitarian mission is bound to some extent to alienate people who do not share its core presupposition. But I think that the primary calling of the church is to honour the creative God who, so the story goes, brought a creational microcosm into existence out of the ruins of the macrocosm for just that purpose. The church’s pursuit of justice and peace has to arise out of, and remain consistent with, that narrative. Everything we do is, at least potentially, a prophetic statement about God.
That’s an interesting remark. I can see the problem of the church being introspective and disinterested in global justice, etc. But I would still argue that it is more consistent with the biblical narrative for the church to pursue global justice by first demonstrating a true and comprehensive righteousness in its own internal life - by being that authentic microcosm. The church believes that the Spirit of the living God makes a difference to the business of being human. That implies boundaries and a willingness to protect our peculiar identity and vocation.
on Christian exclusivity
For my part, I think the exclusiveness of the Christian community is essential to its witness. The Church has clear boundaries: a public pledge of allegiance to Christ above all others, marked by the waters of baptism (and the ongoing rite of communion). Only when the Church knows itself as the Church can it become possible for the world to know itself as the world (and thus, in need of ‘salvation’).
Christian exclusivity is only problematic, I would suggest, within the context of a non-biblical afterlife theology that makes ‘heaven’ the inheritance of Christians and ‘hell’ the inheritance of everyone else. For many reasons, I think that scheme is to be rejected. However, the existence of a distinct people which exists both to witness to the goodness of the Creator and to serve the world is just what ‘justice’ requires! There can be no ‘common’ cause without a common conception of the good. That conception of the good is provided to Christians by the story they tell about the kind of God who has created and called them. ‘Softening’ the boundaries of the Christian faith would make the shared task impossible, for that task precisely derives its intelligibility, and its strength as witness, from the story which describes it, and that story is not universally shared.
Oh the joys of Anabaptist theology…
My two cents,
-Daniel-
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Jim Wallis’s ‘God’s Politics’, mentioned in a response to the review of McLaren’s ‘Everything Must Change’, has been followed by another book, ‘The Great Awakening’. The content seems relevant to the discussion, and is referred to by Wallis in the following link http://blog.beliefnet.com/godspolitics/2008/01/why-i-wrote-the-great-awakenin.html for anyone who is interested.
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Andrew, you observe that:
My first reaction is to agree, but on further thought I’m not so sure. The church might regard itself as being "in the world but not of it," but from outside the faith the church is just one more aggregation of human communities or institutions — in New Testament terms, a sort of Kingdom without geographical boundaries. Is this Kingdom accountable for its actions and policies to those outside the Kingdom? Can this Kingdom be expected to participate cooperatively on matters that concern everyone?
You say that the church stands for human justice and peace only indirectly, as an expression of God’s righteousness and justice as expressed preeminently among the people of God. But the people of God aren’t all people. In a sense God no longer has plans for humankind in general, having focused his attention on that subset of humanity who through faith enter into His Kingdom.
Considered from outside the faith — from "among the ruins" as it were — any group of people claiming exclusive status as God’s microcosm must be regarded with suspicion. For a community to work toward establishing peace and justice among its own members is commendable. For that community to propose that it alone has the God-given authority to represent true humanity, and that peace and justice is attainable and worth pursuing only among the insiders, that the rest of the people in the world constitute a failed creation sinking into corruption — from the outsider’s perspective this exclusivist ethos is potentially dangerous.
In theory membership in this exclusive society is open to everyone, but it’s not so. The applicant is expected to believe something in order to making the transition from the failed version of humanity into elect. Those who in good conscience cannot assert this belief are excluded from this select community, regarded as either unchosen or concupiscent and hence inappropriate for membership in the Kingdom. Barriers to entry into the elite aren’t geographical or racial but ideological.
How does the microcosm function within the macrocosm, among the outsiders who do not acknowledge the legitimacy of its elect status? If the church were to remain insulated from the rest of the world, then the church would be irrelevant to those who remain on the outside. Jesus seems like a harmless enough fellow, enjoining his followers to turn the other cheek, to walk the extra mile, to love their neighbors, etc. But what if, say, the church contends that Jesus’ instructions applied only to insiders? And what if New Testament injunctions not to take up arms against outsiders applied specifically to the first-century geopolitical situation? What if, during the unscripted "fifth act" of God’s unfolding plot, the insiders were to decide that God had called them to reinstate crusades and holy wars against infidels, to ghettoize the non-Jewish occupants of the Holy Land, to engage in wholesale genocide and enslavement of outsiders as in the days of the Old Testament? Then doesn’t the presumably irrelevant and isolated church pose a more direct threat to the outsiders. And, as Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and other strident outsiders have pointedly documented, hasn’t the church repeatedly made this threat manifest in human history?
The church isn’t monolithic in its earthly incarnation, and I presume you’d agree that it’s not absolutely certain what God expects the church to be. I infer from your review of McLaren’s book (I still haven’t read it), that he proposes that the church make no practical distinction between insiders and outsiders, that Christians seek peace and justice for everyone. What harm would there be for the church to pursue this practice? Even if God really does distinguish the sons/daughters of God from the hoi polloi, the renewed creation from the failed creation, is it so certain that this distinction can and should be made based on a profession of faith, baptism, a personal relationship with Christ, or any of the other criteria by which the church has historically distinguished inside from outside?
Daniel, you say:
The world, like the church, isn’t monolithic. A significant proportion of those outside the church acknowledge that human society teeters on the brink of ruin, that injustice is endemic, that ever more powerful engines of war threaten human existence. Many try to obviate the pending catastrophe through human efforts, however imperfect in implementation and uncertain in outcome. Knocking it all down and starting over holds an undeniable appeal, as testified by the post-apocalyptic fantasies which capture the imaginations of moviegoers and scifi readers by the hundreds of millions. From the outsider’s perspective, the Christian call to abandon the world to its doom, or even to push it closer to the abyss through military adventures in the Middle East, doesn’t sound like a salvation: it sounds like nihilism.
From the outsider’s perspective Christian millennial eschatology is in all likelihood wrong; that this world, this life, this humanity are all we’ve got. Maybe God stands behind all works of peace and justice in the world, regardless of whether people recognize it or not. Is it so important for Christians to say that God is concerned with manifesting peace and justice only within the church microcosm, only among those who specifically acknowledge Him and who regard themselves as members of His exclusive society? Peace, justice, love, freedom — are they to be regarded as elements of the common good, or are they restricted only to those who profess faith of God and membership in His distinctive/restrictive Kingdom?
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What an interesting comment. It seems to be saying that the church should drop its own agenda, and find common cause with others to bring peace and justice to the world.
But I think the church can do both; it can have its own agenda, which it can maintain without compromise, and at the same time work with others, who although they may not share aspects of that agenda, find there is overlap and agreement in many areas of social protest and practice.
The church is called to speak to the conscience of the world over war, injustice and oppression. So are many others. It is called to act, with others, in arenas where peace and justice are absent; providing not only welfare for its own members, but to be an advocate for the vulnerable, disadvantaged and oppressed everywhere. Of course the issues on which the church is called to speak out and act should first be put into practice amongst its own members, but it shouldn’t stop with its own members.
Why should the church abandon the very distinctive aspects of its own agenda? This agenda cannot be imposed on anyone; it can only freely be received and accepted, and can equally freely be rejected.
The Iraq war was not a Christian war - the church was broadly against it, in this country and in the USA. The practice of the church in the time of Constantine, with its increasingly oppressive tendencies, flew in the face of New Testament Christian practice, and the practice of very many in Europe who attempted to express their faith outside its authority. To invoke the Crusades as an illustration of the church’s fundamental intolerance to opposition simply begs the question.
The church does have a view on the future shape of the world, and how that will come about. But nobody has to accept its views if they don’t want to. Again, it begs the question to assume that any blueprint for the ultimate destiny of the world must be universally embraced, and be given the consent of the democratic wishes of the majority.
It has to be said that Premillennial assumptions have muddied the waters considerably - and it’s time their false pretensions were exposed. There is no sound biblical basis for a belief that the church will be either wholly or partly airlifted out of the world, abandoning it to a theological chimera known through the hijacked term ‘the great tribulation’.
But ‘concupiscent?’ Getting into bed with unbelievers? Maybe you meant ‘culpable’?
on exclusivity
"Peace, justice, love, freedom — are they to be regarded as elements of the common good, or are they restricted only to those who profess faith of God and membership in His distinctive/restrictive Kingdom?"
In the timeless words of Alasdair MacIntyre, "whose justice? which rationality?"
Peace? How? Through violence? Through Gandhian principles? Justice? Whose ‘justice’? Love? What on earth is that apart from how it is understood within a specific tradition? Freedom? Freedom from authority? Or freedom to pursue the good? Which good?
If the Church exists for the Church, then yes, Christian exclusivity will inevitably appear problematic. Although to be fair, even the Amish are admired and respected, though perhaps not understood, by the ‘wider world’, in spite of its abandonment by them…
But as far as I understand it, the Church exists, among other reasons, to serve the world. That service will of course be informed by its understanding of who God is, but the point is that the Church should not be only inward focused (though of course, neither should it be only outward focused, as if that were possible). And service as ‘power under’ is antithetical to coercion and war (as ‘power over’). The Church serves the world by imitating Jesus, who absorbed its wickedness and violence into his own flesh without retaliation. Hardly the picture of a crusade, wouldn’t you say?
One more distinction: the Church is not the Kingdom. The Kingdom ‘happens’ as it were, whenever God’s will is done. And that doesn’t need Christianity to happen. The Spirit blows where the Spirit wills… The Church is of course called to point the way to the Kingdom, to show the world what it might look like, but it has no monopoly on the Spirit.
My two cents…
-Daniel-
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Peter and Daniel,
I think if you reread my comment you’ll see that I’m not talking about how the church ought to engage the outside world, but rather how I as an outsider ought to respond to the church. I also acknowledged that the church is diverse in how it perceives the distinctiveness of Christianity vis-a-vis secular culture. It seems that McLaren offers a view of Christian distinctiveness that diverges significantly from the traditional evangelical stance, which often regards the world outside the church as enemy territory, a God-forsaken ruin from which individuals may be rescued by believing in Christ and entering into the Church.
Clearly there are sociopolitical differences of opinion within evangelicalism as well. Has God abandoned his efforts to achieve peace and justice in the world at large in order to focus his efforts on a microcosm (Israel, the church) which he has separated off from the world? Jesus’ injunctions to his followers to love their neighbor and so on — did he mean them to apply universally, or only among fellow-members of God’s chosen microcosm? In the past has God actually encouraged his followers to pursue genocidal warfare against outsiders? Has this sort of religious warfare been renounced by Christians for all time, or were the peaceable pronouncements of Jesus and his early disciples to be regarded as relevant only to the specific sociocultural circumstances faced by first-century Israel?
Individually and collectively, Christians answer these questions in different ways, basing their answers on different criteria. How you answer these questions will, however, affect the way you are regarded by non-Christians. Based on your ideological stance regarding the relationship of the church to the world, will non-Christians find common cause with you, or respect your pursuit of an indepenent and insular course, or fear you as a potential threat?
Peter, you say this:
Daniel, you say this:
As an outsider I can find common cause with both of you. You present a perspective shared by many Christians, and by many evangelicals, and probably by McLaren. Nonetheless, contrasting perspectives can be found within the church, including some who participate in this blog, which signal a less cooperative, or even a less benign, outook.
Throughout history the church has perpetrated military crusades against infidels. Peter, you contend that:
Certainly Washington has never publicly espoused it as a Christian war, and many within the American church have always opposed it. But in March 2003 when the war was launched, more than two-thirds of Americans across the board supported the invasion. As a group, white American evangelicals were among the most vocal supporters of the war, and remain so to this day. Of course evangelicalism doesn’t define Christianity: liberal Protestants, Roman Catholics and members of mostly-black churches have been more likely to oppose the war. And it’s also not clear the extent to which white evangelicals have framed the war as West versus East, Christianity versus Islam, the godly versus the infidels. I’m sure it’s a factor for at least a significant minority of American evangelicals, even to the point of regarding the turmoil in the Middle East as the beginning of Armageddon. And I suspect that within the Islamic world the perception is widespread that Christian America and its allies have launched a crusade to crush Islam.
Lol — no, that’s not it. I was talking about the way in which persistent nonbelievers are perceived by believers as unchosen or morally depraved, and hence unworthy of joining the redeemed microcosm that is the church. I’m unduly fond of the word "concupiscent," which I used metonymically to represent any number of besetting sins that might reflect an underlying moral depravity. Maybe I should call in Dr. Freud for a consult?
Jim Wallis
I’m not promoting Jim Wallis or his latest book (which I haven’t read) at the expense of anyone else or any other book, but I do find what he has been saying very insightful into the current relationship between Christian faith and politics in the US.
Seeing reports on the American primaries on UK television with a mixture of fascination and fear (are any of these candidates really equipped to lead the USA into a post-Bush era?), I find Wallis’s comments to be penetrating, and in a way reassuring to the Christian community (real change is always bottom-up, rarely top-down, in politics).
This latest mailing from the Sojourners blog therefore brings the issues which have been discussed on this thread right up to date with the primaries. The link is http://blog.beliefnet.com/godspolitics/2008/01/the-limits-of-pollsters-pundit.html
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
I wanted to say something about how i see the relation of Jesus and the roman empire. I dont think that Jesus’ teachings were against worldly imperialism. In the 1. Testament God uses the empire of Babylon to dicipline the jews. He is even calling Nebukadnezar his servant alltho the guy surely had pagan tendencies to say the least. Israel was enslaved by the babylonic empire, as Israel had been enslaved by the egyptian empire. So now it became wrapped by the roman empire. It seems, that there is a scheme in this, where God is actually putting his chosen ppl into the social body of a dominant wordly empire, to conquer and transform this empire from within, keeping all the goods, that it has come up with, but overcoming and casting aside the paganism and the unholy tendencies. In fact, that is exactly what the church had done with the romans. She conquered this empire from within by the death of many, who sacrifized themselves. But the general concept of the wordly emperor who would serve as a second force was not cast aside. In fact, the church later on welcomed the idea of the emperor as the protector of the church and even granted this title as you will know.
Re: Review of Brian McLaren's Everything Must Change (part 2)
I’ve probably reached my limits in commenting on a book I’ve never read, so I’m off to the library to pick up McLaren’s book. In the meantime I appreciate what matthew76 identifies as the opportunity/danger of a universalist Christianity allying itself with a global imperium like Rome. Neo-Marxists Hardt & Negri proposed in their 2000 book Empire that the American-led coalition of democracy, capitalism and military strength couldn’t be overthrown or even effectively counteracted from outside. Instead, efforts to secure equality and justice should emerge from within the Empire, bubbling up from underneath — something like the early Christians did in the Roman Empire and what Jim Wallis seems to have in mind for today’s Christians.
Hardt & Negri’s premise has been hotly debated by the Left, many of whom regard the book as a "resistance is futile" justification for supporting neoliberalism. Surely other sociopolitical models are possible, and the American "coalition of the willing" doesn’t look as invincible as it did in 2000. I’d feel more comfortable with the idea of Christianity as a microcosm, as one idealistic experiment among many in a pluralistic world, if Yahweh would settle for being one god among many in the pantheon.
another response to the book
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Old (and New?) Testament framing story
Okay, I think I have a handle on McLaren’s "framing story" of Jesus incarnate, which is universal in scope, relevant to the contemporary political-economic situation, and fuzzy at the boundaries between believers and unbelievers. One might criticize his hermeneutic, but within that hermeneutic it’s possible to imagine what McLaren has in mind for Christian praxis: a life of communal equality and peace, extending not just to the church but to the world. It’s also possible for me as a non-Christian to envision what sort of fellowship and collaborati