A Pneumatology for the Emerging Church?

Understood that this site is in hopes to construct a working theology for the Emerging Church, I am a tad bit disappointed that there are not more articles discussing the Emergent stance toward a Charismatic Theology. It would seem only rational that a Charismatic Theology for the Emerging Church would be borderline foundational in light of the last one hundred years of the Church.

The Post-Eschatological Charismatic” thread comes very close to discussing such an issue. However, it at points deviates from the topic at hand. My question then is pneumatological: “What is the role of the Holy Spirit, both in the life of the individual believer and the community, in this Emergent Movement?” “Does the Emerging Church want to build upon a Charismatic Theology or reject the Charismatic understanding found within much of Evangelicalism?” I really am curious to know.

I think this is an important issue to be discussed on this site. Again, the more I am involved in the Emergent Discussion the more I wonder about the reality of the Spirit within the life of this “church.” Simply put, there is more discussion on menial topics instead of on the Eschatological promise of the Spirit; a true Charismatic Theology.

The French

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sharing the treasure

The whole idea of OST is that persons such as you, who have something to share on a particular area of interest would do so, so that all can learn and interact on the issues that you raise.

I pray that the Holy Spirit will work out his purpose through the emergent church, making us real witnesses in word, community and life to our Lord and Saviour. I pray that we will be open to His leading and obedient to His call.

From what I can see, there are many post-charismatics and post-evangelicals too in the emerging movement along with many other flavours too. The implication that I get from your post (perhaps mistakenly!) is that you would be happier to see the emergent church embrace a charismatic understanding and are perhaps waiting to see if it does swing that way?

Please do also explain why the thread that you referred to only “comes very close” to discussing your concerns and what you are going to do about it!

Live to serve : Serve to live

Rethinking pneumatology

Like samlcarr, I think it would help if you could give us a better idea of what you’re driving at. What do you mean when you say, ‘It would seem only rational that a Charismatic Theology for the Emerging Church would be borderline foundational in light of the last one hundred years of the Church’?

In the meantime I have some comments with regard to the apparent lack of interest in the charismatic theology in the emerging church, though I may be repeating myself from the previous thread.

i) The emerging church has hesitated to develop a charismatic or pneumatological self-awareness for the simple reason that many within it have either left the charismatic movement or never liked it in the first place. There is an understandable reluctance to revert to something that for all sorts of reasons has been experienced as, or judged to be, a defective form of Christianity. This is not necessarily a rejection of the belief that God works powerfully in his people through the Spirit - it is simply that people need to gain some distance from the particular religious culture through which the belief has been expressed in the last few decades.

ii) I personally think that, for all our failings, the Spirit is powerfully at work in the emerging church doing a work of renewal - not least of intellectual and theological renewal. It doesn’t look like old time revivalism or the Toronto blessing, but so what? God knows what his people needs.

iii) I think that the emerging church is - perhaps without always realizing it! - groping its way towards a broader understanding of the nature of the Spirit’s presence in the community. In Christian Associates we are having a forum in October on the following question:

If the Spirit of God is renewing the fulness of our humanity towards a new creation, what does this mean for the life of the imagination, and what part does the imagination play in the life of missional communities?

It is probably fair to say that the work of the Spirit in the ministry of the church has too often been restricted in our understanding to a rather narrow range of ‘religious’ activities, many of them associated with speaking, such as prophecy, tongues, preaching, prayer, etc. Increasingly, though, the church is seeking to express itself and engage with society in more imaginative and creative ways. What are we to make of these developments? In what ways can we celebrate the creativity of God in our communities?

This is not particularly approached from an emerging church perspective, but I think it does reflect current uncertainty about how we integrate a charismatic theology into the wider creational and creative agenda.

The Promise of the Spirit

I think that the emerging church is - perhaps without always realizing it! - groping its way towards a broader understanding of the nature of the Spirit’s presence in the community.” - Andrew

This is exactly what I am driving at and hoping to somehow formulate an idea concerning a Pneumatology within the Emerging Church. In light of the last century, it is hard to imagine that the emerging church would revert away from Charismatic/Pentecostal teaching concerning the manifestation of the Spirit as is common in charismatic circles; or better said, it is hard to imagine that this is a wise road to travel down.

This is not particularly approached from an emerging church perspective, but I think it does reflect current uncertainty about how we integrate a charismatic theology into the wider creational and creative agenda.” - Andrew

After reading several different authors in the Emerging movement, it would seem that this is a plausible understanding of the role of the Spirit in culture. Contrasted with current charismatic understanding, the Spirit would not so much as manifest in Supernatural ways, but rather in some creative fashion or form. It somewhat reminds me of certain interpretations of the gifts in some of the early church fathers who compared certain gifts with sacramental ordinances.

So I am hoping for this post to open up certain discussion concerning the role of the Holy Spirit, including manifestations, such as tongues, prophecy, gifts of service, and the like, which are predominent, even expected in churches all over the world. These realities (prophecy, word of wisdom, miracles, etc…), focused so heavily upon within the charismatic movement as attesting to the reality of the Spirit of God dwelling within the community are, I believe, essential for the Charismatic life of the church (I am not pushing for adherence to a particular movement by any means). So my question is, what is a Pneumatology for the Emerging Church concerning the manifestations of the Spirit and the role of creativity within the culture as being inspired by the Spirit?

Hopefully this helps to spark some discussion for this thread.

The French

Is the Holy Spirit particular?

I am speaking as one with many Charismatic friends but I personally have not had a similar experience so I am necessarily an outsider. It seems to me that part of the problem for a more universal acceptance is that the essentially Charismatic experience is simply not a universal one. You say that “These realities (prophecy, word of wisdom, miracles, etc…), … are, I believe, essential for the Charismatic life of the church” and that is the very heart of the issue for me.

I have worshipped in large churches where there were also a significant number of Charismatic believers and have witnessed participation during services with expressions of speaking in tongues and prophecies. I have also personally participated in healing ministries. The very particularity of the experience that others are having is very interesting but does not seem to result in greater fellowship especially when the response afterwards is something like “what, you didn’t feel the Spirit moving?”

Likewise, for my Charismatic brothers and sisters, the “standard” worship services were unsatisfactory and they usually ended up getting together with other like-minded believers to worship more in ways that allowed the completely free expression of the Spirit. i have been a frequent visitor to these special services too but with no noticeable improvement in the ‘result’.

Live to serve : Serve to live

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