Re: Jesus is not God Almighty
Jesus is not God Almighty By: Theocrat (57 replies) 5 September, 2005 - 13:01
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- Pre-incarnate existence By: phil (07/10/2005 - 14:35)
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Re: Jesus is not God Almighty
Thank you for touching on this as I have shared this thought process.
Isaiah 42:1-9 Clear tells us who Christ is.
v.1 God clearly speaks saying,
I’ve posted a few videos outlining various scripture that shows who Christ is and God purpose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QaUtjqqx7o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7gE74DF6Eo
From Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem,
I can’t find this in scripture. Read 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 for this tells of Jesus’ place.
You will clearly note a hierarchy. All things are put under Jesus, excluding God himself and then Jesus puts himself under God. This is clearly two different person with different levels of Authority.
Jesus is clearly in the flesh upon his resurrection and in Acts 1:11
I’m sorry to say it but Jesus has left the building until the time of his return; by the way he didn’t know when he’d return either, only the Father knew… What happened to being all knowing?
And then there is Heaven or the sky. Unfortunately the Church has been spouting of a false belief that heaven is a place that one goes to after their death. The Trinity along with other beliefs of a spiritual heaven are all through pagan influences. If one reads the scripture it is clear that heaven is a physical place beyond the sky and that one day Jesus will return from heaven to instill God’s kingdom.
I feel that it is also clear that the “Lamb of God” is Christ while the One sitting on the Throne is the Father clearly showing two godly beings.
If one read the definition of the word “god” they will note that is also means judge. Those who have been given the words of God have been given the authority to judge on God’s behalf thus making them like gods. How many times can we ignore the scriptures that say Jesus was sitting at the right hand of God.
People will argue about the Book of John and how Jesus was the Word made flesh. But one must also realize that the Book of John was written for the Greeks. The Greeks didn’t understand the concept of a prophet who spoke the Word of God via the spirit of God. Note the spirit of God gave the prophets the word of God, thus making them like gods giving them the authority to judge God’s people. The greeks did not understand the concept of God’s spirit, yet did have a concept of the mind of God or the “Logos”; meaning the thoughts or words of God. Thus God’s thoughts, the mind of God, the Logos became flesh manifested in Jesus. This is the same as the spirit became flesh manifested in Jesus just as the prophet too had received the spirit. The true meaning was lost or distorted in translation and then used for a bad premise.
Unfortunately I think this is hard to accept because people who share this view are looked down upon by the Church. I don’t believe one should accept a lie just because everyone else does, because then Satan has already defeated you.
What I do believe is important is that we realize that Christ was sent to this Earth to be an example. Being fulling human and living a life without sin is a testament that it is possible. And we should strive to be Christ like. Fortunately for us God is a forgiving and merciful God, especially if you follow after his Son. See Ezekiel 18 where it tells us that each man will be judge for his own actions. If a good man turns evil he will truely die, but if a evil man turns good he will truely be saved. [Micah 6:6-9] Paraphrase, God doesn’t want your sacrifice he only wants you to do what is good, to do what is right and loving towards others, and to follow after him living a humble life.
God Bless