Re: On the Origins of Morality: Supernatural, Biological, ...
On the Origins of Morality: Supernatural, Biological, and Relational Possibilities By: Jacob (99 replies) 21 March, 2009 - 03:10
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Re: On the Origins of Morality: Supernatural, Biological, ...
“Moreover, couching the debate in terms of objective and subjective is also misleading. It is more useful and logically more consistent to say that the “cat” and the “eagle nebula” are *social-relational creations*”
I would agree for the Nebula but not for the cat. I think that the cat already defines itself. I also think there is a misconception that subjective means aesthetic. There is an acknowledment that we are individuals, each to be respected as such. Aesthetics stems a lot from that. The supposed subjective statement “This painting is pleasing” is the same kind of statement as the supposed objective statement “This painting is a portrait of the artist as a young man.” The only difference is that the aesthetic statement is uttered in the context of an acceptance that some statements are restricted in their scope to the individual uttering them. No one would require the statement to be rephrased to its more logically correct “This painting pleases me.” Subjective-objective is not about that. It is about perception from a vantage point.