The Sir Toby correspondence
The Sir Toby correspondence
Of course just because a new Sir Toby’s adventure has been launched doesn’t mean my prefatory remarks are finished concerning the archives. In this installment I offer some behind-the-scenes glimpses of the collaborative authorial process, as carried on in email exchanges between Peter and me preceding the publication of Peter’s books. While ordinarily I make it a rule not to reveal private correspondence publicly, in this context I’m following well-established literary precedent.
On 22 Feb 07 I wrote an email to Peter in which I apologized for intruding in his latest Sir Toby’s adventure. I had anticipated that the interactive storytelling style established in the first two episodes would continue, but it seemed that Peter intended to tell this tale himself. In my email I wrote what could almost be used as a back-cover blurb touting his book:
“I think your fiction-writing is erudite, whimsical, and
basically a gas. Sir Toby’s would make a good serial in a 19th century
magazine, a mediocre television sitcom, or perhaps a book of
loosely-connected episodes. We’ve already seen the beginning story and the
Christmas tale; now the murder mystery. The surreal gnostic sensibility;
the post-medieval Prague with its tramways and Australians; the inn itself
with its hearth, its soup, its archivists, its dogs; the intriguing and
infinitely extensible cast of characters; the archaic literary style — I
love it. Theological ideas, both orthodox and heretical, form the backbone
of the tales, framing them in an imaginary world that allows perhaps a bit
more freedom — and overt violence — than is generally tolerated even in
virtual non-fictional realities.”
Seven months later I received an email from Peter:
“I’m putting together some posts from the OST website for a small publishing project (on line; I’m not expecting a huge take-up!), and there were one or two of yours that I’d like to use - the ones which provided links in the Sir Toby’s stories. Could I have your permission to use them?”
“Sure, go ahead,” I replied before continuing:
“Perhaps 6 months ago I tried sending you an email on the closed OST message system. I didn’t hear from you for a couple of weeks, then I realized that the system hadn’t preserved a copy of what I’d sent to you. Either I made a human error or the system failed me. And so I abandoned my quest. But now your email brings it back…
“At the time I was thinking about Sir Toby’s and wondering if you’d like to try co-writing a book based on the conceit. It’s an intriguing little alternate reality, surprisingly evocative after only a few brief visits. I believe the readers were amused and perhaps even enlightened a little. The Trappist [Peter’s alter-ego in the Sir Toby’s world] and the Old Man [my fictional persona] were clearly the most well-rounded of the cast of characters (not surprising given that we were the only contributors). Within the context of OST these episodes were almost tangential, an entertainment in the midst of heavy theologizing. But if we were to occupy Sir Toby’s more resolutely, I wonder what would happen? The post-preteristic theme that so dominates OST would recede, letting the conversations revolve around broader Judeo-Christian themes. The creative tension between the two main characters — the one a nearly-traditional Christian, the other a sort of heretical mystic — could generate some “emerging theology” couched in an eccentrically mythic sensibility that’s part medieval, part Kafka. Kind of a postmodern Screwtape Letters.
“If we were to entertain such a divertissement, I would imagine a writing process whereby one of us introduces a topic and carries it along for awhile, then sends it to the other for further elaboration and counterpoint. Back and forth it would go until the episode reached a plausible denouement or impasse. Kind of like the way we did it at OST. Do one episode at a time as the mood strikes, and stop when we feel like it.
“So whaddaya say? Do you have either the time or the inclination? Do you think it could be done? Is an immediate audience needed to provide creative stimulus? Can you see the roomful of theologians chiming from time to time, the dogs ceaselessly begging for bits of mutton from the nearly-empty bowls, the discourses on the Fall and the Law, the Resurrection and the New Man? Can you picture a handsomely bound little book on the new releases shelf at the local bookstore?”
In his reply Peter thought it might be worth a go. I asked whether we should consider decoupling the Sir Toby’s from OST, writing the new interactive episodes either in email exchanges or on a separate Sir Toby’s blog. After 3 days without a reply I proposed a writing strategy…
“I can picture a series of episodes loosely connected to each other but centering on theological discussion. As I said on OST during the first Sir Toby’s discussion, I tend to see the Judeo-Christian themes less through faith than through the imagination. Perhaps the creative tension between faith and imagination will be evident in the contrast between the Trappist and the Old Man. Not that the whole endeavor isn’t a work of the imagination…
“In the context of Sir Toby’s I resonate in particular with the strange juxtaposition of medieval and postmodern. So, for example, a topic like transubstantiation comes to mind. The Trappist might come forward with a more Protestant symbolic reading, but the Old Man would be captivated by the idea of a substance either changing its essence or partaking in two different realities. Of course you can envision the Trappist as you like, and have him pursue more contemporary theological discussions about, say, substitutionary atonement. But rest assured that the Old Man will find something heretical and odd in the concept.
“If we proceed I’d suggest that we take turns introducing a topic and getting the conversation started. Rather than having a fully-formed episode in mind from the beginning, the initiator can move the story forward up to a certain point, then stop and let the other guy improvise for awhile. Each of us speaks the lines of our own alter-ego, but either of us can interject in the voice of the well-dressed European, or the Antipodean, or the pale young gentleman, or whomever else we’d like to introduce. There may be inconsistencies as we go along, but if things go well we can always come back and edit later.
“How long would the episodes be? As written, the two most elaborate Sir Toby’s stories — Christmas and Revisited — are somewhere between 5,000 and 9,000 words long, which is plenty long enough. I could picture some episodes being no more than a page long. I’d suggest that they needn’t all be resolutely theological — if something catches our fancy we can run with it and see where it takes us. Each episode would continue until it’s done, however long that takes. Similarly, we can launch episodes until we can’t think of any more. If this project actually turns into a book I don’t believe it needs to be very long — 150 pages or so seems about right.
“I think writing these on OST might not be the right venue. It does encourage both speed and careful wordsmithing, which is good. But I think the site works best in a more straightforward discursive mode, revolving around explicitly evangelical concerns. Sir Toby’s occupies an intermediate realm between fiction and theologizing broadly construed, so maybe it should take shape in its own space. Maybe a dedicated and very basic Sir Tobys blog that both of us can post to and edit, either opening it to others’ comments or not. You could let people at OST or anyone else know what we’re up to, then send them to the blog if they’d like to watch, comment, make suggestions, cheer us on, etc. as we go along. Or we could keep it entirely private.”
Peter responded the next day, proposing that we continue writing Sir Toby’s inside OST…
“Part of the inspiration for Sir Tobys is, of course, the OST website - and its current concerns. The setting provides a medium for argument which avoids direct head to head encounter. That’s how it developed. Of course, it didn’t begin that way - as you supplied the brush-strokes which created he hostel - and the theological ruminations which were never really pursued. Even the five scrolls [an earlier Sir Toby’s episode which I’d introduced] was hi-jacked to my own polemical concerns!
“Polemic - I suppose that was a vital ingredient. Some of the contributors to OST provided good material for characters in the narrative. I think a driving engine for me became things I wanted so say about Andrew’s theological project, but was getting tired of off-loading onto discussion forums. At the moment though, the site isn’t throwing up much in the way of inspiration for interesting characters.
“I think I would lean towards the site as a medium for the narrative - even if, at least, there was the incentive of other people perhaps following the dramatised debates - and offering the opportunity for their involvement. I’d be for trying it out on the site. Also for just trying something! If it dries up, or doesn’t provide imaginative stimulus, nothing has been lost.
“Also, I think a key ingredient is some form of narrative drama - not just speeches from the key characters (although that’s important too). But how this develops depends on inspiration at the time.
I’m probably a little less confident than you - but why don’t you launch something? I’m sure I’ll be inspired to reply - though don’t assume too much about my positions. On the eucharist, I’m a lot closer to transubstantiaton than you would think!”
I responded as follows:
“It may be what attracts you to Sir Toby’s are the very things I’m trying to evade. I often had a sense that the Trappist was hoping to engage others in the inn, especially the well-dressed young westerner [a fictionalized Andrew], in conversation, often at the expense of his discussions with the Old Man.
As the Christmas episode was fading away the Old Man brought seven scrolls out of his pack. He might have unrolled each of them in turn, read them aloud, and discussed them if he’d thought anyone was interested. Alas, the only interaction from the gathered theologians was a brief interjection by the Trappist offering an orthodox interpretation of Genesis 6, followed by a demand for more soup. Discouraged, feeling tolerated and humored but generally ignored, the Old Man packed away the seven scrolls without unsealing them. Then he wrote an eighth scroll and, leaving it on the table, he walked away.
“Two months of silence elapsed at Sir Toby’s. During this interval I was shepherding my first and only post through OST, the one about true myth, for which I regarded the seven scrolls as a kind of fictional prelude. You graciously engaged in the myths discussion, though neither Andrew nor Paul Hartigan did… when the myth discussion had run its course, you brought forth the Revisited episode at Sir Toby’s. It began as a long speech by the Trappist about the Son of Man — clearly a polemic directed at the well-dressed young theologian. Then the Trappist collapsed. I read this opening salvo as your dramatization of the futility of your efforts to engage Andrew at Sir Toby’s. And so I wrote an operatic death-and-lamentation scene, waiting to see if you really wanted to kill off the Trappist, or whether Andrew would bring the well-dressed westerner to his rescue. At this point you veered the story to an entertaining espionage intrigue having no theological import that I could detect and current-events interest that would likely engage only British readers. I wondered if our friend down under knew any more about the Russian spy story than I did.
“After another month the Trappist finally unrolled the eighth scroll. Did it bear any relation to the context of the seven scrolls, all of which referred to alternative cosmogonies? Did it bear any resemblance to what the Old Man likely would have written on that scroll? No. Instead, when it was unsealed the eighth scroll turned out to be… another discourse on the Son of Man. Twelve days passed, during which no other theologian in the inn engaged in further conversation with the Trappist. I then entered the thread by channeling the Trappist, having him wonder whether the eighth scroll he had read might have been a forgery, or perhaps the Old Man had placed an enchantment on it, causing the reader to see in it whatever he wanted to see. I thought maybe this would open up a hermeneutical discussion about whether readers of the Scriptures see what they want to see, namely themselves reflected in the texts. “Nonsense,” the Trappist concluded. “All is as it appears to be.” With renewed assurance he advanced toward his uncertain destiny. Here the story ends: there are no further additions to this post and no subsequent visits to Sir Toby’s.
“So, upon reviewing the historical record in some detail, my interpretation is this: Sir Toby’s came into existence as a side room in the large house that is OST. From the beginning it has been haunted by the spectre of OST and those who occupy that larger house, especially its proprietor. Though the Trappist engages in conversation with the Old Man, he is always looking around the room for the well-dressed young westerner, launching into monologues that he hopes will lure the the young westerner into a dialogue that never materializes. Meanwhile the Old Man, for whom these internecene disputes mean virtually nothing, gradually finds himself turning into a ghost, haunting a room that can no longer detect his presence.
“For you OST would be a continuing inspiration for Sir Toby’s; for me I’m afraid it would not. The arguments you hoped would develop on Sir Toby’s never materialized; instead you were stuck with me. For you the real people of OST continued to inhabit their fictional alter-egos; for me the fictional theologians were coming into their own as occupants of Sir Toby’s. As I’ve said, I am not a man of faith; my engagement in theological debate is an exercise of the imagination. If I were to engage in debate and polemics I’m afraid it would turn into believer-versus-atheist discussions, and I feel pretty confident that OST isn’t a great forum for that sort of thing. If debates were to transpire at Sir Toby’s it would be the fictional Old Man talking — a mystical figure who explores the mysteries of religion not so much as a scientist or secular philosopher but as a kind of agnostic wizard.
“So is there anything to lose if I were to launch another episode at Sir Toby’s? I guess I stand to lose a fragile sector of the imagination to what Wallace Stevens called “the pressure of reality.” But let me think about it awhile — maybe I’ll have a change of heart and have the Old Man put something up at OST. Or, to flagrantly mix metaphors and split infinitives in one fell swoop, perhaps the Trappist can launch another boat on that nearly-dry stream and see if anyone will take off their shoes, roll up their cuffs, wade in and push it along.”
Peter’s response:
“First - as regards the content and forum for an on-going Sir Tobys narrative. I’m not really that interested in getting Andrew to contribute - though I wondered if he would. At the time, the story was given an extra lease of life for me by Andrew’s 2006 advent posts, which I was simultaneously vigorously objecting to…
“But the idea began to develop a life of its own. I was interested in developing fictional personae for some of the OST contributors - around the conceit that I was being a major obstacle to Andrew’s postmodern theology project. Serendipity got in the way - and the Russian mafia provided a subplot which became the main plot. I think I was just enjoying the sheer nonsense of it all - the more fantastic the storyline, the better. Andrew did attend Lincoln College Oxford as a student, but the aesthete reading Oscar Wilde in his rooms was a completely unplanned development. I don’t think Paul Hartigan was really in character in the story - apart from being rather prickly in debate - which suggested to me his role in the plot. I think you were somewhat in character in the story - though I hi-jacked your persona shamelessly in making you a kind of accomplice to Andrew - though at first unwittingly.
“As regards the eight scrolls - I’m afraid I wasn’t following you very carefully about these, and at the time wasn’t relating them to the five possibilities and the ‘true myth’ - though you’ll know I picked this interest up slightly in the story - when it was brushed aside by the Westerner as he propounded his own narrative theological line. So apologies if the idea was hi-jacked - but in the interactive story as it developed, you could always have turned the story back to your own interests. I didn’t have any overriding proprietorial rights to it!”
At that point I decided that the preliminary conversation could continue indefinitely without the two of us agreeing on how to get a Sir Toby’s book written and without our actually writing anything new. So I launched a new Sir Toby’s episode, again on OST, to see whether the collaborative writing project outlined in this email correspondence would take shape…
(To be continued — possibly. When I tried to submit this comment I received this message: “We’re sorry, but the spam filter thinks your submission could be spam. Please complete the CAPTCHA.” Maybe OST’s robotic editorial assistant has captured the essence of my remarks. I shall now type in the magical incantation in hopes of deluding the robot into believing that what I’ve provided here is worth publishing on the site.)
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