Re: Contours of Pauline Theology - Tom Holland
Contours of Pauline Theology - Tom Holland By: peter wilkinson (41 replies) 23 January, 2009 - 14:00
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Re: Contours of Pauline Theology - Tom Holland
We can discuss in a separate post the points I’ve brought up here, though I won’t be the one who writes that post. There should be no mystery about my position, since I believe I’ve been quite clear and consistent here and in other threads. The OT writers portray a Yahweh who is fascistic in his exclusive support for one nation/people and genocidal in his dealings with other nations/peoples. Specifically with respect to the “new exodus” theme you’ve introduced here, I’ve not read Holland’s book but I have read the Bible. The Exodus narrative begins with Yahweh killing all the first-born children of Egypt and ends with Yahweh commanding the Israelites to slaughter all the Canaanites man woman and child. To the extent that Jesus and Paul herald a “new exodus” that recapitulates the old exodus, and to the extent that anyone celebrates this recapitulation as commendable, to that extent I regard the paradigm as reprehensible. While Holland is the one who asserted that Yahweh really likes child sacrifice, I’ll take your word that this is not a major theme in the book.
I’m done here if you are.