Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle
Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle
Andrew,
The reason I react with such vehemence to your distinction between microcosm and macrocosm, between sheep and goats, between regenerate and degenerate, is that on all these divides I occupy the position of the rejected "other." I would have been one of the Canaanites slaughtered by the Israelites in the name of their God; I am the one who you regard as unregenerate and under condemnation; I am the one who will presumably be swept away in the last judgment so that your regenerate microcosm can fill the whole earth.
Now my condemnation might be justifiable if this particular God really exists: His ways are beyond our ways, the clay can’t question the potter, etc. The radical barrier distinguishing membership in the regenerate microcosm consists in believing that this God does exist, that He is right, and that one should cooperate with Him — even if it means actively helping Him slaughter entire nations or affirming His right to destroy everyone who doesn’t believe in Him. From the non-believer’s standpoint this sort of radically non-humanistic theism is fascistic by definition. And the barrier is a rigid one: join us, believe what we believe, or our Leader will execute you. Of course one can choose to believe in order to save one’s skin, but isn’t there more integrity in upholding one’s beliefs even under threat of death?
So when I read your attempts to come to grips with the Canaanite genocide by acknowledging God’s right to do away with whole nations man, woman and child, I regard you as a justifier of an all-powerful fascistic regime whose ruler may change tactics but whose strategy (microcosm versus macrocosm) remains constant throughout history. When you say that Jesus promises rewards to those who feed the regenerate hungry but not necessarily to those who feed the unregenerate hungry, and yet you offer no justification for feeding everyone, I regard you as someone who may well turn his back on me in my time of trouble unless I renounce my beliefs. Whether these are your consious intentions or not, it’s how things look from the perspective of the unregenerate goats out here in the non-Christian macrocosm. Surely you can suspend your belief long enough to see that?
There are other ways of reading Paul’s new creation texts, even within a Christian exegetical framework — ways that emphasize disjunction from Old Testament fascism rather than continuity, ways that emphasize the expansiveness of the resurrection life rather than its restrictiveness, ways that destroy barriers between in and out rather than erecting them, ways that emphasize grace rather than judgment. It’s in the context of these more gracious readings that I can find at least the possibility of common cause with Christians, in which all of us retain the integrity of our beliefs in the spirit of love. Of course you’re not obligated to make the effort; neither am I obligated to search for a version of the Christian faith that I can live with. And there’s no assurance that our efforts will bear fruit that satisfy everyone’s tastes. But I do make that effort, for reasons that aren’t always clear to me — maybe it’s masochism, as some of my non-Christian friends suggest. Sometimes I get tired of it, but that’s my problem and not yours.
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (06/07/2008 - 15:31)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (06/07/2008 - 21:45)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (12/07/2008 - 22:00)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: peter wilkinson (07/07/2008 - 11:25)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (07/07/2008 - 16:18)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: peter wilkinson (10/07/2008 - 13:24)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: samlcarr (08/07/2008 - 17:26)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (07/07/2008 - 16:55)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (07/07/2008 - 17:06)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (13/07/2008 - 13:00)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (07/07/2008 - 17:06)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (07/07/2008 - 16:18)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (06/07/2008 - 21:45)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (04/07/2008 - 14:56)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (05/07/2008 - 18:43)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: john doyle (05/07/2008 - 23:28)
- Re: New creation in Paul and scripture: a response to John Doyle By: Andrew (05/07/2008 - 18:43)

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