"The foundational calling
New creation, Spirit, blessing and kingdom: a clarification of terminology By: Andrew (23 replies) 29 April, 2008 - 18:34
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Jacob (01/05/2008 - 15:50)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 16:34)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Jacob (01/05/2008 - 16:59)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 18:27)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Cristiano (10/09/2008 - 01:36)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 18:27)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Jacob (01/05/2008 - 16:59)
- Re: Internal politics of the new creation By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 16:34)
- Another nice diagram, By: peter wilkinson (01/05/2008 - 12:18)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 15:42)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: peter wilkinson (01/05/2008 - 16:10)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 16:56)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: peter wilkinson (01/05/2008 - 17:41)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 16:56)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: peter wilkinson (01/05/2008 - 16:10)
- Re: Another nice diagram, By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 15:42)
- "The foundational calling By: john doyle (01/05/2008 - 01:58)
- Blessing and image of God By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 10:55)
- "Certainly in the By: john doyle (01/05/2008 - 12:52)
- I don’t think there’s a By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 14:56)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (01/05/2008 - 18:51)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (02/05/2008 - 09:08)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (02/05/2008 - 16:41)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (03/05/2008 - 13:48)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (03/05/2008 - 17:24)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (03/05/2008 - 21:23)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (04/05/2008 - 19:18)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (05/05/2008 - 11:53)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (04/05/2008 - 19:18)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (03/05/2008 - 21:23)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (03/05/2008 - 17:24)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (03/05/2008 - 13:48)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (02/05/2008 - 16:41)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 18:54)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: peter wilkinson (02/05/2008 - 09:08)
- Re: I don’t think there’s a By: john doyle (01/05/2008 - 18:51)
- I don’t think there’s a By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 14:56)
- "Certainly in the By: john doyle (01/05/2008 - 12:52)
- Blessing and image of God By: Andrew Perriman (01/05/2008 - 10:55)
"The foundational calling
"The foundational calling of the people of God was to be a new
creation - an alternative to the corrupted macrocosm, in which the
original blessing of Genesis 1:27 would not only be recovered but also
transmitted to the nations of the earth."
I recently went through my objections various aspects of your new/renewed creation logic on this post from Peter, and he and I had a nice extended discussion about it (we missed you, Andrew, since your remarks were the subject of the post). In that thread you centered God’s original creational blessing in Gen. 1:28:
I pointed out on Peter’s post the obvious fact that mankind has already fulfilled this blessing in spades. Now I see you’ve backed up a verse, to Gen 1:27:
This verse is presented not as a blessing to be fulfilled at some future time, but as a fait accompli, intrinsic to the already-accomplished work of creation. Peter and I talked indirectly about this one too; i.e., did man lose God’s image somewhere along the way, say in the Fall? It was an interesting discussion Peter and I had; I remember it fondly — no need to repeat it here. I do have one new thing to add, or actually one old thing:
Here Paul seems to believe that man retains the original image of God from creation. Ah, but wait, I see a loophole: Paul is addressing his remarks not just to any ordinary men, but to the men of the church at Corinth. If only those who are of the Church (or the post-resurrection version of Israel, or the microcosm, or whatever) receive the creational blessing, then Paul’s rationale for men keeping their heads covered while praying or prophesying is relevant only to men of the Church. (Presumably the unchurched can go bareheaded while praying and prophesying and God won’t take offense — or at least no more offense than He already takes due to their membership in the "corrupted macrocosm.")
Okay, that’s all I’ve got for now.