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Re: NT Wright and the confusion of kingdom and new creation
NT Wright and the confusion of kingdom and new creation By: Andrew (10 replies) 12 February, 2008 - 12:41
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Re: NT Wright and the confusion of kingdom and new creation
It seems to me that you are trying to make a distinction between God´s kingdom and the new creation? Or do I misunderstand you? If this is what you are trying to do, its confusing to me. The concept of kingdom is not clear in the hebrew scriptures, but the idea of God as (coming) king is important, for example in the Psalms and 1 Sam 8. God´s kingdom is simply that which God is ruling over. And Rev is full of the visions of God as king, vision that continues into the last chapters, for example 22:3 with context. Isn´t this kingdom-terminology, then what is it? To me it seems the most natural way to read text about God´s kingdom and the new creation as referring to the same thing, but seen from different angles. When God rules over God´s creation, it will become the New Creation. And it can only become truly new when God reigns. And if I´m right in this, I think there are good reasons to still be waiting for a coming (universal) kingdom of God that will transform things profoundly.