political change?
How should the emerging church respond to the prospect of 'large-scale ecosystem collapse'? By: Andrew (76 replies) 24 October, 2006 - 18:07
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- hollow economics with false politics By: samlcarr (06/11/2006 - 05:09)
- California eh? :) By: Virgil (06/11/2006 - 03:11)
- system of trade and principal of ownership By: Melody (06/11/2006 - 02:33)
- Yes but consider the context By: Virgil (05/11/2006 - 21:38)
- early church economics By: samlcarr (05/11/2006 - 06:25)
- Commoditizing? By: Melody (05/11/2006 - 04:00)
- Twisting the words of Christ By: Virgil (05/11/2006 - 04:47)
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- decisions, decisions By: samlcarr (31/10/2006 - 16:03)
- Billions in Poverty By: janamills (31/10/2006 - 12:25)
- Party on, this is the Jubilee! By: Virgil (31/10/2006 - 02:39)
- No twist intended By: janamills (31/10/2006 - 01:15)
- America the best... By: Virgil (31/10/2006 - 00:38)
- Chicken or the Egg By: janamills (30/10/2006 - 23:55)
- Not so quickly... By: Virgil (30/10/2006 - 22:42)
- Costs & Liberty By: janamills (30/10/2006 - 22:11)
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- Two curses? By: Virgil (28/10/2006 - 17:03)
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political change?
So what exactly do you mean by lifestyle change and political action? Telling me how much water I can use when I flush my toilet? What kind of lightbulbs I can use in my home? Ration batteries? Tax flautulence? Or like Tony Blair made the assinine suggestion to “tax global warming?”
Why don’t we just pass a law that requires the electric company to cut electricity to all homes a few hours every evening like Ceausescu used to do in Communist Romania? That seems to be the most reasonable way to save electricity and cut down on emissions. In fact, why draw any lines in your plans? We need to invade people’s private lives at every level in order to make sure that “political action” is followed to the letter.
Sun Warrior’s suggestion actually makes the most sense: the market will sort it all out in the end. Every time the govenrment gets involved things get messed up even worse. There needs to be action, there needs to be lifestyle change, but I do not want or need you to force your lifestyle on me by sending the police to my house because I have too many lights burning or because I use up too much water. The change has to come from people’s hearts, not from governmental coersion, and those who do use most resources are already paying for them. Electricity, gasoline, water…all cost money. There is no such thing as free lunch.