was not in having divergent views, but in demeaning any view - which i felt marhose did. i appologize if i misunderstood his intentions. i understand passion, obviously, but dont want any of us to be demeaned in the process of wrestling with the deep things. as for what i believe - all i know is that it is an ever-morphing thing. eternity, i believe in - eternal damnation for any human being, i do not know if i believe. lately i have grown to think either we are saved by grace or we are not. of course i could be wrong, i have been before. but as i look at my 40 plus years of relationsip with god and search of scripture, i find fault with much of what is traditionally taught. i stumbled onto this site and hope it to be a place where thoughts can be expressed and hard questions asked without the smug atack of “have you read the bible?”

i also did not consider the intentions of this site before i wrote. i was excited about the ideas i saw expressed and opened my mouth quickly. so i do appologize if i was offensive or spoke inappropriately. i will endeavor to take a closer look at what you are creating here, and speak within your perameters.

thanks