Personal Salvation
Am I sure that I am saved? By: Andrew (42 replies) 5 June, 2006 - 11:29
- God serves His purposes, not ours. By: bobcmu76 (15/08/2006 - 19:36)
- Am I saved? sacramental.. By: Len Hjalmarson (26/06/2006 - 18:00)
- Personal Salvation By: driz (28/06/2006 - 01:05)
- Perhaps the question of By: pastorerik (28/06/2006 - 01:21)
- discipleship By: samlcarr (27/06/2006 - 11:19)
- Personal Salvation By: driz (28/06/2006 - 01:05)
- How can I be sure that I'm sure? By: peter wilkinson (07/06/2006 - 13:23)
- communal path By: revslick (06/06/2006 - 22:34)
- LTJ By: pastorerik (06/06/2006 - 22:46)
- The Myth of Individualism By: pastorerik (06/06/2006 - 17:08)
- What is 'modern By: kingjames1 (06/06/2006 - 05:38)
- What is Modern..... By: Ken Cameron (22/07/2006 - 21:05)
- Ken, I'm not sure what By: andrew (22/07/2006 - 21:58)
- I'm not sure that I am... By: Ken Cameron (23/07/2006 - 22:48)
- Ken, I'm not sure what By: andrew (22/07/2006 - 21:58)
- kingjames, By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 00:49)
- Historically, in both By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 06:14)
- Joel,
even though there are By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 09:52)
- Gotcha. Are you saying By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 13:32)
- Joel, your reading of John By: andrew (07/06/2006 - 15:29)
- Well I never By: peter wilkinson (07/06/2006 - 18:22)
- If I May By: pastorerik (07/06/2006 - 19:02)
- weirdly different By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 19:23)
- So... By: pastorerik (07/06/2006 - 19:46)
- Pastorerik, I think I know By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 20:37)
- From the first page that By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 22:59)
- Joel,
I agree with you that By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 23:59)
- Paul,
Understood, although By: Joel Richardson (08/06/2006 - 02:37)
- Joel,
I might be wrong but By: paulchen (08/06/2006 - 23:01)
- Paul,Before I answer any By: Joel Richardson (09/06/2006 - 03:54)
- Joel, Please observe my By: paulchen (10/06/2006 - 13:28)
- sorry, Andrew By: paulchen (08/06/2006 - 23:03)
- Paul,Before I answer any By: Joel Richardson (09/06/2006 - 03:54)
- prayer to the Mother? By: Daniel D. Farmer (08/06/2006 - 05:21)
- Joel,
I might be wrong but By: paulchen (08/06/2006 - 23:01)
- Paul,
Understood, although By: Joel Richardson (08/06/2006 - 02:37)
- Joel,
I agree with you that By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 23:59)
- From the first page that By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 22:59)
- Pastorerik, I think I know By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 20:37)
- So... By: pastorerik (07/06/2006 - 19:46)
- weirdly different By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 19:23)
- Answered Prayers By: Makaden (07/06/2006 - 18:37)
- If I May By: pastorerik (07/06/2006 - 19:02)
- Well I never By: peter wilkinson (07/06/2006 - 18:22)
- Joel, your reading of John By: andrew (07/06/2006 - 15:29)
- Gotcha. Are you saying By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 13:32)
- What about the lens which By: andrew (07/06/2006 - 09:45)
- Joel,
even though there are By: paulchen (07/06/2006 - 09:52)
- Historically, in both By: Joel Richardson (07/06/2006 - 06:14)
- kingjames strikes again By: Daniel D. Farmer (06/06/2006 - 15:38)
- What is Modern..... By: Ken Cameron (22/07/2006 - 21:08)
- Scary Pseudo-Christian Groupthink By: pastorerik (06/06/2006 - 17:28)
- What is Modern..... By: Ken Cameron (22/07/2006 - 21:05)
- The calling of love By: Daniel D. Farmer (05/06/2006 - 18:53)
- Pascal By: samlcarr (24/06/2006 - 13:31)
- Maybe a bit too evasive By: paula (05/06/2006 - 17:49)
- A personal relationship with Jesus By: andrew (06/06/2006 - 11:24)
- Personal relationship with Jesus By: Lee Wyatt (21/07/2006 - 18:02)
- New thread started By: andrew (22/07/2006 - 15:21)
- Personal relationship with Jesus By: Lee Wyatt (21/07/2006 - 18:02)
- A personal relationship with Jesus By: andrew (06/06/2006 - 11:24)
Personal Salvation
Perhaps the question of “am I saved?” is better phrased as “do I love?” - changing our perspective from inward to outward, from self to other. Maybe it’s in giving less thought about our “personal salvation” and in giving more of ourselves to others that we move closer to Christ?
This thread reminds me of an essay I read recently on a home-church-oriented blog. The writer (whom I’m not familiar with) offered a laundry list on the ways in which the western church is (in his words) “deceiving itself in crucial areas,” including the practices of “asking Jesus into one’s heart” / “saying a sinners prayer” / “giving one’s heart to the Lord” – none of which are specifically mentioned in the NT.
Some of his premises are questionable, but certainly we are living in a Xn era that has created a mechanistic form of salvation which relies on quick, convenient, patternistic formulae, rather than organic, abiding trust in the Spirit to work its own “divine heuristic” into a pre-Xn life.