Paul,Your reply is pretty

Paul,Your reply is pretty

Paul,

Your reply is pretty much what I was expecting. You express a measure of confidence that prayer to Jesus is not biblical yet you would never go so far as to say that it is wrong or anything like that. You do however express that it may be completley ineffectual, as if Jesus is unable to answer prayer: “Maybe, Jesus can translate our requests to the Father”. Maybe? You are also confident that prayer directed to Jesus is not the approach that should be taken, yet when asked exactly what prayer is, you reply with, “Hard to say”.

Just out of curiosity Paul, do you believe in the Trinity?

Some more comments/questions:

You challenge my claim that “the practice of the historical church shows what is ‘correct’.”

What is your authority Paul? The Bible? What Bible? Who decided which books are included in this Bible of yours and which were left out? How do you know that the books that you appeal to are the “correct” books? Who decided this, when did they decide it and what is your opinion of these men and their decisions?

(Prayer is): “first of all to express my thankfulness to the ONE I owe everything to.”

Do you owe thankfullness to God the Son or strictly to God the Father?

‘is it okay to lay in bed at night now and talk to Jesus?’ - I would say it is better to pray to Jesus than not to pray at all. Maybe Jesus (like the Holy Spirit) can translate our requests and thanksgiving to the Father?”

Maybe, but you’re not sure? Okay. Is it also better in your opinion to pray to Mary than to not pray at all?

‘Or are you simply saying that one may only pray to Jesus if he literally visually sees Jesus as in a vision or epiphany? ’ - this is what happened in almost all examples from the Bible that we have. For me this is almost like saying: ‘We should all now talk to burning bushes’, because there was an example of God speaking to Moses through a burning bush.”

??

Moses was talking to God, not the bush Paul. If God talked again through a bush then would you advise not responding? Likwise, Paul (the apostle) was talking or more specifically “entreating” Jesus to do something that only the sovereign God could do.

May we sing to Jesus as unto the Father?’ I feel like saying: well if you want to then do it - but this doesn’t make it more biblical.”

Let me rephrase the question: Do you ever personally sing to or worship Jesus?

Do you think this is Biblical? Do you think that it pleases God?

Prayer to Jesus By: paulchen (51 replies) 10 June, 2006 - 13:26