Is Rome Babylon?
Is Rome Babylon? By: Joel Richardson (34 replies) 27 May, 2006 - 02:46
- Rome is bigger than Rome By: pastorerik (27/05/2006 - 03:21)
- Thanks Eric,
I appreciate By: Joel Richardson (27/05/2006 - 06:02)
- Ezekiel 38-39 Finally By: pastorerik (30/05/2006 - 16:19)
- Whatever happened to Revelation 17:9-11? By: peter wilkinson (30/05/2006 - 20:52)
- So... By: pastorerik (31/05/2006 - 06:32)
- I don't know what to call By: Joel Richardson (31/05/2006 - 13:19)
- Re: I don't know what to call By: enarchay (05/08/2007 - 07:22)
- enarchay By: peter wilkinson (05/08/2007 - 08:35)
- Re: enarchay By: enarchay (05/08/2007 - 08:36)
- enarchay By: peter wilkinson (05/08/2007 - 08:35)
- Re: I don't know what to call By: enarchay (05/08/2007 - 07:22)
- I don't know what to call By: Joel Richardson (31/05/2006 - 13:19)
- This post was posted above, By: Joel Richardson (30/05/2006 - 21:19)
- So... By: pastorerik (31/05/2006 - 06:32)
- Whatever happened to Revelation 17:9-11? By: peter wilkinson (30/05/2006 - 20:52)
- Revelation 17:9-11 By: pastorerik (27/05/2006 - 17:47)
- Revelation 17:9-11 By: peter wilkinson (27/05/2006 - 22:14)
- Thanks Guys,Its By: Joel Richardson (28/05/2006 - 03:30)
- Is Rome Babylon? By: peter wilkinson (28/05/2006 - 09:18)
- I've lived in both Israel By: Joel Richardson (28/05/2006 - 14:51)
- Islam and Revelation 17 By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 00:11)
- Peter,
No convulsing By: Joel Richardson (29/05/2006 - 03:40)
- Interpretive convulsions By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 10:30)
- Peter,
Gotcha. First of By: Joel Richardson (29/05/2006 - 14:17)
- Gotcha By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 19:57)
- Peter,Sure. I fully By: Joel Richardson (30/05/2006 - 01:03)
- Gotcha By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 19:57)
- Peter,
Gotcha. First of By: Joel Richardson (29/05/2006 - 14:17)
- Interpretive convulsions By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 10:30)
- Peter,
No convulsing By: Joel Richardson (29/05/2006 - 03:40)
- Revelation 17:9-10 By: andrew (28/05/2006 - 20:58)
- ""The seven heads of the By: Joel Richardson (30/05/2006 - 04:30)
- The references appear to be By: andrew (30/05/2006 - 11:27)
- I've Got To Go with Andrew on this one... By: pastorerik (30/05/2006 - 16:31)
- Eric,Why do I suspect a By: Joel Richardson (01/06/2006 - 03:39)
- Me? No.... By: pastorerik (01/06/2006 - 03:45)
- Eric,Why do I suspect a By: Joel Richardson (01/06/2006 - 03:39)
- Andrew,
There is a relative By: Joel Richardson (30/05/2006 - 14:29)
- Multiple levels of interpretation By: andrew (30/05/2006 - 18:00)
- I've Got To Go with Andrew on this one... By: pastorerik (30/05/2006 - 16:31)
- The references appear to be By: andrew (30/05/2006 - 11:27)
- Thanks so much Andrew. I By: Joel Richardson (28/05/2006 - 22:26)
- The beast By: andrew (29/05/2006 - 11:36)
- Revelation 17:9-11 By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 13:35)
- Peter, I agree with a lot By: andrew (29/05/2006 - 16:11)
- Ghosties, goulies and long-legged beasties By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 21:17)
- Peter, I agree with a lot By: andrew (29/05/2006 - 16:11)
- Revelation 17:9-11 By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 13:35)
- The beast By: andrew (29/05/2006 - 11:36)
- ""The seven heads of the By: Joel Richardson (30/05/2006 - 04:30)
- Islam and Revelation 17 By: peter wilkinson (29/05/2006 - 00:11)
- I've lived in both Israel By: Joel Richardson (28/05/2006 - 14:51)
- Is Rome Babylon? By: peter wilkinson (28/05/2006 - 09:18)
- Thanks Guys,Its By: Joel Richardson (28/05/2006 - 03:30)
- Revelation 17:9-11 By: peter wilkinson (27/05/2006 - 22:14)
- Ezekiel 38-39 Finally By: pastorerik (30/05/2006 - 16:19)
- Thanks Eric,
I appreciate By: Joel Richardson (27/05/2006 - 06:02)
Is Rome Babylon?
You may be right; the main problem I have with most kinds of ‘futurism’ with regard to Revelation is the violence it tends to do to recent history, and the traditional role of biblical prophecy as calling people to righteousness, and especially, in the land of Israel, to the covenant.
I’m referring of course to some of the injustices on which the modern state of Israel was founded - and are perpetuated to this day in a two-tier racial society. If you doubt this, ask a Palestinian. Consider Deir Yassin and 385 Palestinian villages ethnically cleansed after 1948, and the continuation of this policy to the present day.
Christians can be fixated on Islam as the source of all evil in the middle east, but the power of Islam today rests as much on its role as a rallying point for political and social injustice as its spiritual character. In Israel, the attitudes which are the foundation for injustice cast the Palestinian as a second or third rate citizen, and millions rot in refugee camps.
The rise of militant Islam in the middle east has as much to do with a reaction to western interference as the operation of abstract spiritual forces. Our awareness of history should include the carve-up of the middle east after World War 1, the population displacements which occurred at the founding of Israel, and the imperialism which replaced Mossadeq with the Shah in Iran through western oil interests in the 1950’s. Problems in Iraq today need to be viewed in this context. The frequently overlooked victims of this history are the ancient Christian communities of the middle east, many now in danger of extinction.
Maybe if some of the justice issues were addressed , the spiritual issues would exert less of a malign influence. Where is the prophetic voice calling for justice, and vindication for the oppressed? I don’t hear it in popular expositions of Revelation and ‘end-time prophecy’.