Re: religion?
religion? By: danjograss3 (26 replies) 9 March, 2006 - 20:03
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- Re: religion? By: danutz (13/03/2006 - 18:28)
- Re: religion? By: peter wilkinson (13/03/2006 - 18:03)
- Re: religion? By: danutz (13/03/2006 - 17:15)
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- Re: religion? By: PastorPete (10/03/2006 - 19:28)
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- Re: religion? By: PastorPete (10/03/2006 - 06:27)
Re: religion?
I would never say Jesus is "JUST another human conduit of God’s truth who didn’t really say anything that was truly universe-shaking". That is something that I think you would like me to say, but I won’t. How could being a conduit of God’s truth be a "just". Be careful about putting the word "JUST" infront of something when you repeat what someone says (or when you paraphrase what you think someone says). That is poor manners in a conversation/debate and I’ve been guilty of doing it myself at times. You hear me talk about Jesus’ humanity and you translate that as "jesus didn’t say anything universe-shaking". That isn’t fair. Maybe you were referring to the original post, but he didn’t speak about Jesus at all so that doesn’t fit either.
As far as the "I AM" statements in the Gospel of John, I think those are statements made by 2nd and 3rd generation followers and storytellers that tell the story with a "character" called Jesus that is not the same Jesus that historically lived in the first century. This character (I believe is based on a real live person) in John’s Gospel is speaking the words of later Christians in a narrative form that shows us what the real flesh and blood Jesus had become to them many years later. For them he was "the way". They are powerful statements and very important statements, but are not likely to have been spoken by Jesus in the flesh. I do however think that they were inspired by the holy spirit through the story tellers. So in that way you could say Jesus still spoke them. This explains why the words of John are so different than the words in the synoptic gospels. They are seperated by a whole generation of life and stories.
So in summary, I would not say Jesus is JUST anything, but instead he is MORE than a man and MORE than a spirit and MORE than a story. He is all those things and more.