Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage
Secular satire and Muslim rage By: peter wilkinson (31 replies) 7 February, 2006 - 17:11
- Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage By: larry91403 (12/02/2006 - 11:24)
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- Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage By: peter wilkinson (13/02/2006 - 18:24)
- Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage By: danutz (12/02/2006 - 20:08)
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- Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage By: larry91403 (13/02/2006 - 09:09)
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Re: Secular satire and Muslim rage
If you tell Muslims that "God loves them". You have not told them anything they didn’t already know. What makes you think they don’t already know God loves them?
We need to tell and show them all of these points:
1)Christians love God - Muslims don’t know this and it’s not evident in our cultural secular values which "appear" to them to come from Christianity rather than our secular society. They have no way(lack of information) of knowing this because in their world society and religion are integrated.
2)Christians love Muslims - Muslims don’t know this and it’s not evident in our government’s actions. From thier viewpoint military actions "appear" to come from Christianity rather than a secular government. Again all their information about how the world works would tell them that government actions are closely aligned with religious beliefs. How would they know otherwise?
3)God loves Muslims - I mean this different than you. I mean that we need to publicly say God loves Muslims just as they are. We cannot say that God loves all people "even if they worship the wrong god". We need to say that God truely loves Muslims and appreciates their worship of him! If we can’t say that and understand that they also worship the creator of the universe regardless of our theological differences then everything else we say is mute. I’m NOT saying we have to accept their religion as 100% true or equal to ours, but we need to acknowledge the underlying similarities in the same loving way that we can acknowledge our own differences in OST.
4)God loves Christians - This will be the hardest point to make because it violates some Muslim principles. We can’t prove it, but it should show in our actions if we follow #1-3.
Those are the issues which me must have conversation about because based on history those 4 points are NOT clear to everyone.