Andrew, sorry, did I go a bit too modern there? Also I didn’t mean to get us lost in a discussion on the qualatative differentiation of the ways that we experience the presence of God (well not in this section any how). Rather I’ve been wanting to reinforce the experience you described in your opening piece (which is my expereince too) that practical, purposeful tasks can and do focus the presence of God for us. I think developing a spirituality for now is assisted if we redress what I think is a ‘modern’ imbalance of emphasising the presence of God within us over against an implied absence everywhere else. Such an emphasis often discourages the indicators you described as helpful in a metro-spirituality ie. it works in public, open spaces, with non-believers etc..