The gospel according to Pluralist
Jesus is not God Almighty By: Theocrat (57 replies) 5 September, 2005 - 13:01
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: PastorKG (05/02/2010 - 01:43)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: larry91403 (31/01/2010 - 11:08)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: The world has moved on. (30/01/2010 - 05:48)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: DoubtingFaith (26/09/2009 - 21:42)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: PastorKG (28/10/2009 - 17:36)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: PastorKG (20/08/2009 - 01:03)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: DoubtingFaith (27/09/2009 - 02:14)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: Servetus the Evangelical (03/08/2009 - 06:01)
- Re: Jesus is not God Almighty By: kimded (22/12/2007 - 20:13)
- "And the Word was God" By: smccloud (23/09/2005 - 22:16)
- Back in the saddle By: (05/10/2005 - 16:40)
- A positive contribution By: Theocrat (05/10/2005 - 16:44)
- A higher estimation By: (05/10/2005 - 16:51)
- Pre-incarnate existence By: phil (07/10/2005 - 14:35)
- sent into the world By: (07/10/2005 - 17:56)
- Shaliach By: phil (14/12/2005 - 18:51)
- Re: Shaliach By: Theocrat (10/01/2006 - 13:25)
- Impasse By: phil (13/01/2006 - 13:35)
- Re: Impasse By: Theocrat (16/01/2006 - 14:22)
- Re: Impasse By: unitarian (06/01/2007 - 08:06)
- Re: Impasse By: Theocrat (03/05/2007 - 17:01)
- Re: Impasse By: unitarian (06/01/2007 - 08:06)
- Re: Impasse By: larry91403 (13/01/2006 - 22:57)
- Re: Impasse By: Theocrat (16/01/2006 - 14:22)
- Re: Shaliach By: peter wilkinson (10/01/2006 - 15:07)
- Re: Shaliach By: Theocrat (16/01/2006 - 14:19)
- Re: Shaliach By: peter wilkinson (16/01/2006 - 15:57)
- Re: Shaliach By: Theocrat (16/01/2006 - 14:19)
- Impasse By: phil (13/01/2006 - 13:35)
- Re: Shaliach By: Theocrat (10/01/2006 - 13:25)
- Shaliach By: phil (14/12/2005 - 18:51)
- sent into the world By: (07/10/2005 - 17:56)
- Pre-incarnate existence By: phil (07/10/2005 - 14:35)
- A higher estimation By: (05/10/2005 - 16:51)
- A positive contribution By: Theocrat (05/10/2005 - 16:44)
- Back in the saddle By: (05/10/2005 - 16:40)
- Divinity of the Son By: RickRitchie (23/09/2005 - 20:23)
- Jesus is God Almighty (but that's a phrase I have never used) By: peter wilkinson (05/09/2005 - 18:54)
- That's the point By: Pluralist (05/09/2005 - 22:38)
- The gospel according to Pluralist By: peter wilkinson (06/09/2005 - 08:16)
- Response to Peter By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 13:02)
- I don't get your drift, By: peter wilkinson (09/09/2005 - 13:19)
- Sorry, Peter By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 13:42)
- Gulp! By: peter wilkinson (09/09/2005 - 19:29)
- More data to consider By: phil (12/09/2005 - 14:32)
- Soon come By: Theocrat (14/09/2005 - 16:46)
- Old chestnut By: Theocrat (15/09/2005 - 16:02)
- Hot chestnuts By: peter wilkinson (15/09/2005 - 19:47)
- a slightly different approach offered By: (18/09/2005 - 18:39)
- A different approach considered By: peter wilkinson (19/09/2005 - 10:34)
- different approach qualified By: paulchen (20/09/2005 - 22:55)
- man, water, day, god By: phil (21/09/2005 - 13:10)
- He was God enough... By: (23/09/2005 - 11:59)
- "A text cannot mean what it never meant" By: mars-hill (23/09/2005 - 13:28)
- He was God enough... By: (23/09/2005 - 11:59)
- A short response to a long post By: peter wilkinson (21/09/2005 - 00:18)
- sorry for delay, Peter, Phil... By: paulchen (24/09/2005 - 17:58)
- man, water, day, god By: phil (21/09/2005 - 13:10)
- Setting the record straight By: Theocrat (19/09/2005 - 15:20)
- Confused By: peter wilkinson (19/09/2005 - 15:56)
- different approach qualified By: paulchen (20/09/2005 - 22:55)
- A different approach considered By: peter wilkinson (19/09/2005 - 10:34)
- a slightly different approach offered By: (18/09/2005 - 18:39)
- Impersonal spirit By: Theocrat (15/09/2005 - 16:12)
- Not yet persuaded ... but please keep trying! By: phil (16/09/2005 - 15:38)
- Hot chestnuts By: peter wilkinson (15/09/2005 - 19:47)
- martian landscapes By: mars-hill (15/09/2005 - 01:53)
- Hey, you! By: (15/09/2005 - 15:59)
- Old chestnut By: Theocrat (15/09/2005 - 16:02)
- Soon come By: Theocrat (14/09/2005 - 16:46)
- More data to consider By: phil (12/09/2005 - 14:32)
- Startling claims By: phil (09/09/2005 - 14:59)
- Thou saist By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 16:24)
- Non-divine man left hanging By: mars-hill (13/09/2005 - 14:19)
- Hanging By: Pluralist (13/09/2005 - 21:49)
- In pursuit of a goal By: peter wilkinson (14/09/2005 - 08:46)
- Hanging By: Pluralist (13/09/2005 - 21:49)
- Non-divine man left hanging By: mars-hill (13/09/2005 - 14:19)
- Thou saist By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 16:24)
- Gulp! By: peter wilkinson (09/09/2005 - 19:29)
- Sorry, Peter By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 13:42)
- I don't get your drift, By: peter wilkinson (09/09/2005 - 13:19)
- Response to Peter By: Theocrat (09/09/2005 - 13:02)
- The gospel according to Pluralist By: peter wilkinson (06/09/2005 - 08:16)
- That's the point By: Pluralist (05/09/2005 - 22:38)
- cause for celebration By: Albannach (05/09/2005 - 14:44)
The gospel according to Pluralist
‘John’s gospel comes to the Jesus story from its own developed perspective’ - so do the other gospels. All you are saying is that you have access to some other information (which you do not disclose) which disproves this perspective.
‘God is what anyone or any group finds to be of most significance’ - this is a contradiction in terms: if God is no more than people’s projections of him, by definition, he ceases to be. The statement also contradicts your immediately preceding statement: if that is your definition of God, then it is precisely trying ‘to God him from below’. Find some other word or concept: ‘God’ won’t do.
‘The Bible is not trinitarian’ - more to the point, the bible is not monotheistic - in the sense of presenting a unitary God who lives in solitary isolation. It would be much simpler if he were, but that is not how he is presented. That is more a product of Greek philosophical thinking. There is plenty of evidence that this is not how Jews saw him, and neither Old nor New Testament present him in this way. It certainly was not how Paul saw him - but I have a feeling that Paul, like the four gospels, is excluded from your personal biblical canon.