Reply to "One More Attempt"
Evolution & Spirituality: The Truth Will Set Us Free By: desertphyllis (30 replies) 2 May, 2005 - 01:07
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Reply to "One More Attempt"
Interested researcher, you said that you’ve read the original Hebrew. Good, than I have a question for you. In your previous post you quoted the following:
As to the order of creation (earth before stars), we know that Earth’s atmosphere has completely changed three times during its formation from creation through modern times. When the planet first was filled with flammable gases and volcanic eruptions, the sky was darkened with smoke. When this inferno cooled and the atmosphere became livable for plants and animals, stars were visible. From any view point on the Earth, the stars may be said to have come later, although of course they existed beyond view.
Since you know, would the original Hebrew give any indication that God "revealed" the Sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day rather than "created" or "made" them? Now, you may say, "The writer is trying to demonstrate what happened in a way the audience at the time would understand." Perhaps, but let’s not assume that they are any dumber than we are, I think they would know the difference between God "revealing" the Sun, moon, and stars and God "creating" or "making" them. Besides, I think we have reason to believe that the audience at the time was quite smart. Adam named all the animals and got married on the same day. Have you seen the pyramids? The Hanging Gardens? People in the past weren’t all that dumb. If God had intended to say that he "revealed" the Sun, moon, and stars, I’m sure he could have found a word in Hebrew to use that they would understand. "Galah" would have been a good one. They already knew that the earth was unformed and unfilled. It would be a short step in logic to assume that it was cloudy if God had said that he "revealed" the Sun, moon, and stars. But He didn’t.
Secondly, were the clouds let up just enough for the plants to evolve? Was it cloudy for a billion or so years while the early organisms learned to utilize the suns energy, and even have time to evolve into seed and fruit bearing plants (we’re talking a long time now), and then, once they did, suddenly the sun was revealed? Is this what happened that caused God to say that he created the Sun, moon, and stars after the plants?
The fact is, we don’t need to try to squeeze the book of Genesis into this dumb evolution theory. There is little or no evidence to support its rediculous claims and an overabundance to disprove it. The earth is crying out "CREATION!", and I’m sure that’s the way God had intended it. We were made special apart from plants and animals, not mutated into existence over billions of years.